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Gingrich says Bush, GOP to blame for defeat
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 11/09/06 | TOM BAXTER

Posted on 11/10/2006 6:59:08 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: Walkingfeather

I just did a very small amount of research on Mr. Rogan. I remember him from his days helping to impeach the beelzebubba. I was sorry he lost re-election. Is there anyway anyone could find out if he might be a viable candidate? From what I remember and what I've read so far, he sounds like just who we're looking for.


301 posted on 11/10/2006 9:39:14 AM PST by MSSC6644
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To: Mad Dawgg
I agree. Newt should remain as an 'attack dog' and nothing more.

I still blame Newt for 'Clinton's resurrection' after the '94 democratic election train wreck.

Newt was blamed for the government shutdown (while polls showed that the American people strongly opposed it). Clinton was able to blame Newt and the 'Contract'--when it was really Clinton that shut down the government. Newt let the blame fall on himself--without being able to put the blame where it belonged--on Slick.

That event led to the rehabilition of the Clinton administration after the huge democratic losses in '94. Prior to that point, even the MSM was using the term 'irrelevant' when discussing the Clinton Administration.

302 posted on 11/10/2006 9:39:58 AM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Txsleuth
Newt is the ultimate in opportunists...he never misses an opportunity to bash Bush...

That's how I see him and what I remember hearing!

303 posted on 11/10/2006 9:40:26 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: John Lenin

I can handle the truth. What I don't like is people who live in glass houses should never throw stones.


304 posted on 11/10/2006 9:41:28 AM PST by Perdogg (I'm Perdogg and I approved this message)
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To: dinoparty

BULL! period


305 posted on 11/10/2006 9:41:29 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Rummyfan

And today, if the Dims could prevent filibusters on judges, now? I hated McPain for doing it, but maybe, just maybe some coalition of Sensebrenner types could block a Bush liberal-judicial appointment the Dims demanded of him, and keep us in judicial-appointment gridlock for two years; giving the conservative base strong motivation in 2008.


306 posted on 11/10/2006 9:42:01 AM PST by Wuli
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To: stacytec
People seem to be forgetting that it was Newt's political ruthlessness and intinct for the jugular that lead to Congressional triumph in 1994.

Newt began his eventual ascension to House Majority Leader by forcing an investigation of Texas Congressman Jim Wright and his corrupt book deal. He did this in spite of the objection of the RINO Minority Leader at that time (Robert Michael).

Newt set standard for visionary leadership that the party has been lacking since he left. Lets look at the failings of the Hastert-led Republican Congress:

"Reward friends and punish enemies"

The current leadership has pursued an almost
comically opposite strategy of backstabbing
friends and rewarding enemies.

This comically suicidal plan has been followed
in a pathetic attempt to curry favor with
beltway media barons who essentially despise
and look down on Conservatives. This situation
would be extremely funny if the political
consequences were not so tragic.


It is worth noting that the Treason Party has not
such a ridiculously feckless strategy. They
fabricated a bogus prosecution against Tom Delay
as payback for his very effective redistricting
plan. The charge was shown to be specious but it
destroyed Delay politically.


"Manage your coalition"

Under the Newt there was healthy dose of
cold-bloodedness in selecting candidates and
asking weak incumbents to retire. That habit
was wholly discard in this cycle as a number
of fatally compromised candidates were allowed
run when they should have been put out to
pasture.

In this cycle, Dennis Hatsert did a miserable job of managing the candidate list. Hastert is my Congressman and I like and admire him but he was the wrong guy for the job.

As Conservatives go through a time introspection about what went wrong it is also helpful to remember what went right before the movement went off the rails.

What is needed now is leadership that is principled, visionary and politically ruthless. We will see in short oder how "bipartisan" the Treason Party will be. Expect endless irresponsible investigations, MSM hit pieces and general mayhem of the Dims.
307 posted on 11/10/2006 9:42:02 AM PST by ggekko60506
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To: Perdogg

Anybody who trashes Newt over his personal life lives in a glass house. The man is responsible for the republican revolution that just came to an end. Since the GOP is always willing to cut off it's nose to spite it's face we find ourselves in the place we are in now. Had we stuck up for Delay and left him in power the massacre that happened on Tuesday never would have happened.


308 posted on 11/10/2006 9:47:21 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
I don't care about people's personal life. I am a conservatarian. I am sick and tired of people like Newt bitching and complaining. He's done nothing but criticize the President for the last 5 years, I am sick of it.

"Don't Hate, Participate!"
309 posted on 11/10/2006 9:50:28 AM PST by Perdogg (I'm Perdogg and I approved this message)
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To: Paloma_55
...THEY were forced to resign for unethical behavior.

He wasn't forced. He punched out on his own. Turned tail and ran.

I wish he had stayed until he was forced out. Just to send home the point that he didn't lie about it in court like the nemesis, B. (Job) Clinton.

310 posted on 11/10/2006 9:51:44 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! ...over Cobb County and the World!)
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To: Perdogg

The only one to blame is the republican that did't vote and nothing else.


311 posted on 11/10/2006 9:54:43 AM PST by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: B Knotts
Had Pres. Bush replaced Rumsfeld weeks ago, we might have at least held on to the Senate, and quite possibly both houses.

I disagree. I think they would have lost, legitimately not fraudulently, in greater numbers by greater margins.

312 posted on 11/10/2006 9:54:57 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Perdogg
He's done nothing but criticize the President for the last 5 years,

And he was/is right as evidenced by Tuesday's election. Like I said, you can't handle the truth. Bush is going to sell the GOP down the river even faster now. The farther we get away from this guy the better off we will be. Once amnesty is enacted the GOP will not win another election for 30 years.
313 posted on 11/10/2006 9:55:27 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: Pokey78

hey ol newt is his new wife sick yet. If she is did he serve papers of divorce on her death bed like he did to his ex. The woman was only dying of cancer.Preach on Newt!


314 posted on 11/10/2006 9:55:28 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: italianquaker

"pubs eat there own dems stay on message, thats why you have nancy and harry in charge"

How right you are. The Dims never allow events to get them off message and never dwell on their own faults, particualrly not in public. While the pubs message is often not their own, its often no more than a response to the Dims message and too often they refuse to defend their own from a Dim attack, while the Dims almost never fail to circle the wagons around their own, no matter the error.

Some might say that that just means the Dims are less moral and more poltical. Sorry, most of politics is not "moral" to begin with, so if you are not going to play the game by the rules of the game, don't enter the contest.


315 posted on 11/10/2006 9:56:11 AM PST by Wuli
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To: John Lenin

Name one thing Newt did to secure the borders??


316 posted on 11/10/2006 9:57:41 AM PST by Perdogg (I'm Perdogg and I approved this message)
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To: Perdogg; All

I would take Newt on as party leader, replacing Mehlman. Maybe he is wrong now for an elected post, but he remains a great idea person and a great strategist. It could be a really good thing.


317 posted on 11/10/2006 9:59:51 AM PST by Wuli
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To: stacytec
We have nothing to lose now, lets get the dirty laundry aired

You are right, we have nothing left to lose. We lost it as we publicly aired the dirty laundry for the last 2 years.

318 posted on 11/10/2006 9:59:51 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: John Lenin
I met George W. Bush at a NH Primary rally in my hometown in July 99.

He spoke for 30 minutes and took questions. I shook his hand and we shared a few words.

I came home that night and posted here, "He is our Clinton".

I can't find the post, because we can't search by date.

But events will prove that diagnosis correct, I believe.

319 posted on 11/10/2006 10:00:41 AM PST by Jim Noble (To preserve the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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To: Perdogg

Speaking as a former constituent of his, I believe part of the problem with the GOP started with Newt Gingrich.


320 posted on 11/10/2006 10:01:21 AM PST by Gaffer
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