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Year-End Computer Glitch Worries NASA
CBS News ^ | November 9, 2006

Posted on 11/09/2006 1:31:55 PM PST by Zakeet

Space shuttle Discovery was moved to the launch pad Thursday to await a launch that could be as early as Dec. 6 — an effort to avoid potential New Year's Eve computer glitches.

The worry is that shuttle computers aren't designed to make the change from the 365th day of the old year to the first day of the new year while in flight. NASA has never had a shuttle in space Dec. 31 or Jan. 1.

"We've just never had the computers up and going when we've transitioned from one year to another," said Discovery astronaut Joan Higginbotham. "We're not really sure how they're going to operate."

Starting Dec. 6, launch opportunities would be available as late as Dec. 17 or 18. With a 12-day mission, that would mean the shuttle is back on Earth before New Year's Eve.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: computer; nasa; y27; y2k
The latest Y2K issue -- sort of. Well, now we have a Y2007.001 issue to worry about. Perhaps. Maybe.

I'd be interested in finding out if any of you folks out there who are more knowledgeable about computers than I think this problem is as silly as it appears.

1 posted on 11/09/2006 1:31:58 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

I think it's silly as hell.


2 posted on 11/09/2006 1:34:06 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Zakeet

The first experiment in time travel! I love it!


3 posted on 11/09/2006 1:38:13 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Zakeet

I am fairly sure this would have been tested on the ground via simulations. Flight software goes through extreme testing. But NASA may not want to test in space considering other recent concerns.


4 posted on 11/09/2006 1:41:26 PM PST by ElmoMobito
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To: Zakeet

Silly by today's standards, perhaps. Just remember when the Shuttle's electronic architecture was 'frozen' -- early '70's? This problem crops up with a lot of long-leadtime military hardware like combat jets. You design the stuff to the cutting edge, but by the time the system actually get's built it's a couple of generations out of date, at least.


5 posted on 11/09/2006 1:46:28 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Zakeet

Their Shuttle software is over 30 years old. Runs on an 8086.


6 posted on 11/09/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by Ben Mugged
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To: Zakeet

Then comes the Y2038 bug.


7 posted on 11/09/2006 1:51:45 PM PST by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: Zakeet

Their problems may be worse than we imagine. When was the last time you ever heard of a suttle flight up during the daylight savings time change, hmmmmm?


8 posted on 11/09/2006 1:52:22 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Zakeet

We tested it already. It is not a problem. At ALL - Media Hype.


9 posted on 11/09/2006 2:04:55 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Zakeet
I am dusting off my power point presentation from 1999 explaining why there would be no problem with the millennium change over. Computers do seem to handle time quite well, of course they may not be in range of the Internet time servers while in space, but even without that the clock should be quite capable of making the transition from day 365 to day 1.

The worst problem that I saw with that was that the food plant I worked in came up with no unexpired inventory because of dates. The problem was fixed before noon.

At the grocery store I picked up a sauce mix that had an expiration of 1905. I mention this to the clerk and said I was surpised that they were making this exact sauce in this same package 100 years ago (with my straight face, of course). She thought a minute and then exclaimed "I bet I know what happened". If a grocery clerk can figure it out that quick, it just isn't a problem.

10 posted on 11/09/2006 2:17:50 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Ben Mugged
8086? Probably an 8080/8085/Z80 8-bit architecture.

Possibly RCA Cosmac processors. 8+2parity bits, iirc. SOS - silicon on saphire for cosmic ray hardening, and they
run the Pioneer/V*ger probes, and other than distance,they seem to have held up well.

Oops, I know why. Pre-Microsoft SW...

11 posted on 11/09/2006 2:26:21 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Zakeet
They are IBM AP-101S
12 posted on 11/09/2006 2:40:59 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Zakeet

Joan, I don't care if you ARE an astronaut.

"Transition" is a noun. It is not a verb.


13 posted on 11/09/2006 2:42:38 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Calvin Locke

Written in machine language. I was on the development team writing some of the maintenance code.


14 posted on 11/09/2006 2:42:46 PM PST by Ben Mugged
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To: Zakeet
The worry is that shuttle computers aren't designed to make the change from the 365th day of the old year to the first day of the new year while in flight.

You gotta be kidding me. All that technology and their computers can't handle the roll over of a new year?

15 posted on 11/09/2006 2:50:34 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Zakeet

Here's an idea... set the clock to Dec 31st and see what happens.. geez. It's pretty hard to test you know


16 posted on 11/09/2006 3:31:31 PM PST by FunkyZero
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To: Calvin Locke

They actually run System 4 (AP-101's) with an embedded OS. Same as the F-15


17 posted on 11/09/2006 3:54:26 PM PST by FunkyZero
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To: FunkyZero
They actually run System 4 (AP-101's) with an embedded OS. Same as the F-15

Note to self: When invading the US, do it on Dec. 31st

18 posted on 11/09/2006 5:19:39 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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