[Smokin' Joe]

From what I recall of the Egyptian flight, the pilot dove the plane after having shut down the engines, restarted the engines, climbed, and dove again with the engines shut down.

While that may have been a struggle for control in the cockpit, it was also mentioned that those would be the actions of a former military pilot trying to evade heat seeking missiles in an aircraft with no countermeasures.

Whatever the case, they ran out of air.

[bmwcyle]

All as I can say is, Thank God Jack Cashill is still working on the truth.