[NittanyLion]

You guys (neocons) really need to get a clue. The base voted GOP, stay homers were few and far between. What the neocons (yall) did was drive Reagan Democrats (working middle class) into the Rats camp. Insane trade policy, out sourcing, amnesty, out of control spending and a unpopular war policy did it. The GOP base voted GOP, no one else did, so stop with the blame the GOP base crap.

Exactly...

[mwl1]

The GOP base voted; so did the RAT base, in roughly equal numbers. We lost the election because we lost the independents, who voted in higher percentages than in 2002, mostly due to Iraq and in some cases local issues, such as corruption.

We lost independents 3:2, specifically suburban women and Catholics.