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NO MORE RED & BLUE (Nation now drawn-and-quartered)
NY POST ^ | November 9, 2006 | Ryan Sager

Posted on 11/09/2006 5:02:07 AM PST by Liz

A couple of big things expired Tuesday night: the usefulness of the trite Red/Blue dichotomy in American politics, and the George W. Bush/Karl Rove dream of the Republican Party holding a "permanent majority."

But one big new thing was born: the interior West (the eight states off the West Coast: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming) as America's new political swing region.

Conservatives may not realize it yet, but all this will benefit the Republican Party in years to come.

Since 2000, President Bush and political guru Rove have pushed a mutant ideology that's come to be known as "big-government conservatism" - a betrayal of the Reagan/Goldwater legacy, aimed at softening the image of the GOP in the eyes of voters who are culturally conservative but economically liberal. The result: out-of-control domestic spending, out-of-control pork projects and out-of-control corruption among the folks in charge of handing out the bacon.

And all that left the conservative Republican base disgusted with its leaders in Congress and the White House. While Iraq played a key role with voters in the middle, this conservative discontent is an equally big reason why Congress flipped. Evangelicals and weekly churchgoers moved away from the GOP this year, as did self-described conservatives, according to exit polls.

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1 posted on 11/09/2006 5:02:09 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

I would like to see a Red VS Blue (county) map for this election to compare with the 04 map.


2 posted on 11/09/2006 5:03:59 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Liz

Considering that a number of props protecting marriage passed, that AZ established English as the official language, Tancredo got re-elected, I'd be very careful before painting the red bits blue...


3 posted on 11/09/2006 5:04:41 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
I'd be very careful before painting the red bits blue...

I agree. The red bits are as red as ever, it's just that the GOP is bluer than before and many of the dems that got elected were quite red for dems.
5 posted on 11/09/2006 5:08:04 AM PST by JamesP81 (Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
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To: JamesP81
I live in a red bit of Upstate NY, which is mostly red.

We just re-elected a pro-life conservative :)

6 posted on 11/09/2006 5:09:10 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Amazing---considering Arizona is Mexico Norte.

Arizona voters decided the most ballot measures - 19 - including four stemming from frustration over the influx of illegal immigrants---and approved.

English as the state's official language AND another that expands the list of government benefits denied to illegal immigrants.


7 posted on 11/09/2006 5:10:02 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: mewzilla

That's my Critter, BTW. Hillie, Schmuckie, et al are just proof of why Upstate needs its own state.


8 posted on 11/09/2006 5:10:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
We just re-elected a pro-life conservative :)

And also Clinton, Spitzer, Hevesi, Cuomo, my former Congressman Hinchey...

9 posted on 11/09/2006 5:12:54 AM PST by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: Liz

The nation also likes to ticker-split. Go figure. But if the 'Rats think they have a lock on '08, fine by me.


10 posted on 11/09/2006 5:13:19 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: CT-Freeper

I've met Hinchey. I wanted a shower afterwards.


11 posted on 11/09/2006 5:13:52 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
I've met Hinchey. I wanted a shower afterwards.

LOL...he does give off that vibe, doesn't he. Only good thing I can say about him (and Hillary - blech) is that when I worked for Lockheed Martin, they both did a decent job of helping us get some good contracts...including the new Presidential Helicopter.

12 posted on 11/09/2006 5:24:09 AM PST by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: JamesP81

"Evangelicals and weekly churchgoers moved away from the GOP this year, as did self-described conservatives, according to exit polls."

"The red bits are as red as ever, it's just that the GOP is bluer than before and many of the dems that got elected were quite red for dems."

I now go back to my theory on the changes that have taken place in our country:

Conservatives = Conservatives
Democrats & Republican Moderates = Liberals
Liberals = Marxists

Conservatives voted issues not candidates.
Moderates voted based on Iraq and Corruption.
Liberals voted for power.

The left ran a perfect game plan. They appealed to moderate voters while at the same time threatening moderate Democrat pols that they are coming after them if they don't capitulate. Moderate Republican pols just ran away. Then the Democrat moderates hit on Iraq.

Conservatives won on the issues challenging our values, marriage, abortion. Things that quite honestly the left could care less about because the courts will overturn the peoples will anyway.

When this election cycle began, most of us knew what was in store for us for a simple reason. The name Guiliani gave everyone a bout of neausea.

Rush said we are liberated. Well, let's get cracking on 2008. Target every moderate Republican in the country and go after them. Start today. Let the purge begin.


13 posted on 11/09/2006 5:24:11 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The voting machines aren't broken. The Dems operating the voting machines are broken.)
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To: mewzilla
Been listening to WBEN in the weeks running up to the election.
What amazes me the most is Hevesi getting elected.
I guess he's what passes as a honest Democrat - a self-admitted thief.
14 posted on 11/09/2006 5:28:14 AM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I wonder how safe the DINOs feel?

They were elected on immigration issues and now their first act is AMNESTY?


15 posted on 11/09/2006 5:32:06 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Liz

Good map link:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2006/countymap.htm

Click on tabs for 2006, 2004, and Switchers.


16 posted on 11/09/2006 5:32:32 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Great----thanks.


17 posted on 11/09/2006 5:35:52 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: mewzilla

Exactly. We had a bad election and discouraged both base and independents and now it's a Nixonian type recovery.

It's always best not to jump to conclusions. What with the internet, any Kerryesque stuck on stupid comment is far more vulnerable than during the 90's.

There will be plenty of material. I am not happy, but I also think that this puts us in a much better spot in 08 than people may think.


18 posted on 11/09/2006 5:36:31 AM PST by saveliberty (If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

How did we get bamboozled by the MSM into this red state/blue state system (the New Yok Time started it!), which colors red states (Democratic) blue, and blue states (Republican) red? The colors are obviously reversed. I suspect that they did not want to reinforce the red in the Party of Treason, so they switched the colors.

Anyway, the last elections (2002, 2004) were close. This time, many key races were also close, but just a little the wrong way. Didn't we all predict that Bush was not getting more popular? When I had a wealthy local woman tell me that she was through with the Republicans because they had passed "that torture bill" in Congress, I knew that things were getting a bit crazy.

And, of course, the MSM has been against the Republicans all the time. A Republican candidate makes one slip of the tongue, in a good-natured way, and it is made to haunt him, and he eventually loses, replaced by an opportunistic, lame-brain "former military" dope, one of whose "campaign workers" instigated the whole thing in the first place. Webb really should be ashamed of how he won in Virginia, and lots of voters will have time, I suspect, to regret their choice.

We all will have a hard two years ahead. But maybe its good that we get rid of this red/blue color confusion. Colors are labels, and we have to get the labels right. "By their fruits ye shall know them."


19 posted on 11/09/2006 5:37:59 AM PST by docbnj
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To: Right Wing Assault

Thank you for the link!


20 posted on 11/09/2006 5:38:11 AM PST by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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