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To: EagleUSA

Social Security reform:
Are you from THIS PLANET?
On Earth, Bush and the Republicans got HAMMERED at every single mention of Social Security reform...

Illegal immigration solution:
Look at the election Demographics. Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....


33 posted on 11/08/2006 8:37:47 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: tcrlaf

Illegal immigration solution:
Look at the election Demographics. Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....
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Yes they did BUT if the Federal government had stood up and DONE ITS MANDATED JOB of protecting the borders of this country, it would never have been an issue. The borders would have been closed very easily, and the ILLEGAL FLOW of illegals and God knows what else, would have been ended.
The Federal government wastes over $100 BILLION per year to support illegal aliens, to say NOTHING of the state level. The cost to implement a complete border closure would be a fraction of that. Yes, it started way before Bush -- but Bush chose to do nothing, in fact, help and aid illegals by suppressing information flow from the Border Patrol about illegal crossing -- a matter of public record.

He remains Mexico's Manchurian Candidate. For that, he is most certainly to blame. Without question.


42 posted on 11/08/2006 8:44:14 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: tcrlaf
Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....

I wish someone would have made clear that we need both a wall and an effective means of legal immigration and work visas. The protocols required to immigrate legally are obscene, especially since they're only inflicted upon the law-abiding.

50 posted on 11/08/2006 8:53:36 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: tcrlaf

Hispanics were already in the Democrats pocket. Several close losses if investigated can be traced to illegal alien votes, most notably in Virginia (Allen) and Maryland (Erhlick), where big registration drives without checks added a lot of illegal voters.

Continue blaming those who oppose amnesty and law breaking and you are guaranteeing that 2008 will be an even worse disaster, aided by President Bush's plan to give a "path to citizenship" to 12-20 million illegals who will surely vote Democrat.


87 posted on 11/08/2006 9:45:27 PM PST by oldbill
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To: tcrlaf
Look at the election Demographics. Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....
A ton?
More like a real world shift of 1% nationwide. And taht 's assuming that no one voted Republican because of the borders.

Of course, shouldn't we act now before it is too late to stop the influx of mostly socialists?

Or having been told to shut up for 20 years, are we now to be told that the demographic pincers have closed and America is lost, so learn Spanish and suck it up?
102 posted on 11/08/2006 10:12:27 PM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: tcrlaf
. Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....

Another winner in the contest to completely misread the problem.

173 posted on 11/09/2006 8:41:25 PM PST by Pelham (1 Billion Guest Workers doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.)
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To: tcrlaf
Look at the election Demographics. Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....

I have looked at the demographics. Hispanic Americans don't vote like their self-appointed leaders (there is no one "Hispanic" group, but many, each with its own agenda and politics). But how they vote is almost immaterial, because they are such a small slice of the electorate.

For every La Raza vote you think you can gain by pandering to Hispanic identity politics, three or four whites and maybe a black stay home.

The only folks pushing the hispanic-vote canard are left-wing wishful thinkers and bought-and-paid-for hacks like the WSJ's Tamar Jacoby, who's utterly in the pocket of agribusinesses seeking slave labor.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

196 posted on 11/16/2006 6:07:14 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Build more lampposts... we've got plenty of traitors.)
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