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The Road Not Taken: Forfeiting a Majority
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt ^ | Wednesday, November 8, 2006 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 11/08/2006 8:14:07 PM PST by Checkers

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To: Mamzelle
Mamzelle- I'm not 'self promoting' many sites allow clickable signatures-- If I were 'self promoting my site' I'd be posting nothign but one liners & writing in bold letters "PLEASE COME VISIT MY SITE" if you don't want to visit- then don't- if you do- whatever- but thanks for letting a non issue become a topic of scrutiny for you. Have a nice day.

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

161 posted on 11/09/2006 1:17:47 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: CottShop

No one likes spam.


162 posted on 11/09/2006 1:43:46 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Defiant
I am frustrated with a group that is relatively close to the Republican party, but throws their votes down the toilet, and as a result, elects Dems.

I understand that frustration, but the crucial word in your post is "relatively", and if the GOP did a better, dare I say a relatively good, job of adhering to and governing by conservative ideals, more people who presently consider themselves Libertarians would cross over and vote for Republicans; probably many wouldn't have even re-registered as Libertarians in the first place. If you look at where growth is coming from in the Libertarian party, what you see are a large number of disaffected former-Republicans. These people didn't turn away from conservative ideals, their former party, the GOP, did. So, rather than betray those principles, they did an honorable thing, and re-registered with a party that still upholds them. That albatross needs to be hung around the necks of RINO's -- McCain, Chaffey, DeWine, et al. -- and their apologists; people who think a successful GOP is a GOP that looks more like the Democrat Party. THOSE clowns are capital "I" IDIOTS, and they are to blame for all manner of disease within the GOP, one symptom of which is people re-registering as Libertarians.

Now, you may argue that it's more honorable to stick with the GOP and work to steer it back to those conservative principles, and I agree with that. But, in defense of re-registrant Libertarians, I must point out that the expectation is that the GOP will uphold conservative ideals as a vehicle to change government and the country; to turn them back to more Constitutional ideals. We already know that the country and government have problems that would not exist if conservative principles were being applied and adhered to, and it's a monstrous battle to make headway there. Well, when the GOP itself began to fail in terms of applying and adhering to conservative ideals, it forced the constituency into yet ANOTHER battle; a battle for their own political party. As if we weren't already tired, and irritated, and frustrated with the myriad ways in which government and the country, in general, have turned away from conservative values, now THIS TOO? Frankly I can't bash people who looked at that situation and just said, "T'ell with it!" and re-registered as Libertarians.

At the day's end, the GOP needs a long dark season of painful introspection during which it decides, once and for all, whether to be a conservative party, or an equivocating, squishy-middle party. Is the GOP going to make a decided turn back to the right, and re-establish itself as the champion of the conservative ideals upon which this Republis restsl; or is it going to take the view that those ideals are antiquated, and continue to slide leftward?

I'll stay and fight for the former. I repudiate and damn the latter.

163 posted on 11/09/2006 2:11:14 PM PST by HKMk23 (PRO-LIFE: Because a Person's a Person, no matter how small.)
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To: Mamzelle
Funny becasue it's not concidered spam on other forums- Besides Mam- I've reciprocated by linking FR on my site, in my posts as well as in emails as I think this site is doing a great service- (besides the few petty posts I run across)- people temporarily clinking over to another site isn't goinjg to break the site Mam I promise you- infact Fr is getting exposure to a couple hundred people on my site every day- Shall I concider it spam to list their links in my posts on my site? I think not- Fact is most forums allow clickable links in signatures- call it what you like- I really don't care- again- try to have a nice day even though you've felt 'negative' by way of viewing my posts- sigh

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164 posted on 11/09/2006 2:58:00 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: HKMk23

The big problem with sitting out or voting for 3rd parties is letting Pat Leahy control the Judiciary committee. We had a chance to put another conservative on SCOTUS, which now is probably gone, and this goes well, well beyond two years of possibly temporary period of "sending rascals a message".

There is a good story today in WSJ about 26000 votes in VA Senate race that could keep Senate barely in GOP hands.

Imagine 5 conservative Justices on SCOTUS and end to stupid decisions or guessing games. There was a rumor last week that Stevens can't possibly hold much longer... now, Bush and RNC didn't make a big fuss about that, possibly not wanting to "alert the media" and Dems, but true conservative voters are supposed to understand these things, and what's really at stake.


165 posted on 11/09/2006 3:38:46 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: umgud

Are the actual numbers supporting that statement available yet?


166 posted on 11/09/2006 3:40:28 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom

I'd heard this from a talking head, but I can't confirm it.


167 posted on 11/09/2006 3:52:11 PM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: CutePuppy

Oh, I am in complete agreement with you about the "death toll", here; I'm painfully aware of the opportunities that have been squandered over the last six years, and now will be unreachable over the next two. But I'm not so blind as to lay blame on people who had no opportunity to do something different. As Hugh ponts out in his column, the fault for this loss may certainly be laid at the feet of bonheads like McCain and the six other Republicans he conned into being part of his now-infamous "Gang of 14". People -- I almost botched it and used the word "men" -- of such diminutive character; who cannot see beyond the horns at the end of their noses to uphold the core principles that undergird the GOP platform are anathema to the Constitution, and they need to be regarded as anathema to the GOP, too.

Until then, nothing will ever change; at least not for the better.


168 posted on 11/09/2006 5:50:13 PM PST by HKMk23 (PRO-LIFE: Because a Person's a Person, no matter how small.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I am demanding that we now step up our 'investigations' that we so nicely postponed - like the Sandy Berger papers, etc.

And I assume that we will soon hear more about Harry Reid's land deals...there's more there than smoke.


169 posted on 11/09/2006 8:34:39 PM PST by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: The G Man

Open Borders Hugh- just the man the GOP needs for advice.


170 posted on 11/09/2006 8:35:50 PM PST by Pelham (1 Billion Guest Workers doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.)
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To: misterrob

How can we blame them? Koolaid is such a powerful drink.


171 posted on 11/09/2006 8:38:31 PM PST by Pelham (1 Billion Guest Workers doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.)
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To: greasepaint

You're closest to the mark.


172 posted on 11/09/2006 8:39:49 PM PST by Pelham (1 Billion Guest Workers doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.)
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To: tcrlaf
. Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....

Another winner in the contest to completely misread the problem.

173 posted on 11/09/2006 8:41:25 PM PST by Pelham (1 Billion Guest Workers doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.)
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To: bitt

Makes me sick...we let so many things slide and they are going to crawl up Bush and Cheney's rear with a microscope...


174 posted on 11/09/2006 8:42:31 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Defiant

Lol. Good call. And that's not his only convenient 'omission'.


175 posted on 11/09/2006 8:43:33 PM PST by Pelham (1 Billion Guest Workers doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.)
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To: bitt

Thank you!


176 posted on 11/09/2006 11:51:30 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes; All; perfect_rovian_storm

today's Zogby poll:


Do you agree or disagree that Congress should hold hearings to consider impeaching President Bush?


Agree
Disagree
Not sure

Which of the following is the most urgent moral problem in American culture?


Greed and materialism
Poverty and economic justice
Abortion
Same Sex Marriage
None/not sure
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177 posted on 11/10/2006 5:39:18 AM PST by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Checkers
A sound analysis of what happened. However-I'm still mad as hell at the protest stay at home repubs. They royally screwed the military. Putting them at the mercy Of Nancy Pelosi and company is unforgivable.
178 posted on 11/10/2006 5:45:47 AM PST by Pajamajan (SOS ReCALL)
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To: Majic
And what do we get? A bunch of spineless RINOs pushing Democrat ideology.


179 posted on 11/10/2006 5:48:53 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: dawn53

I hadn't thought Frist was thinking about presidential ambitions for several months now; a lot of noise for a long time about it, and then quiet.


180 posted on 11/10/2006 6:16:31 AM PST by Twinkie ("I JUST LOVE READING MIA T's THREADS!" exclaimed Little Lulu.)
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