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Abandoning Iraq
RealClearPolitics ^ | November 8, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 11/08/2006 4:00:01 PM PST by nosofar

Regardless of its final composition, and regardless of other pressing issues or its mandate, the leading item of business for the new U.S. Congress will be Iraq.

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The fate that will befall all those millions of courageous Iraqis, showing the dye on their fingers after they had voted -- in defiance of all the terror threats -- will not come as a surprise to me, either. They are being sold out, as the Vietnamese were before them. But the consequences of abandoning Iraq will come home to the United States and the West, in a way Vietnam never touched us.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; war
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To: Billthedrill

"Now they're going to have to put up or shut up."

If as I assume, arab muslims are incapable of civil democracy, when the whole experiment fails it will rest at Bush's feet.

Now one might say: "if we stay there long enough, they will learn how to live under civil democracy" another might say "but how long must we stay?"

"How many American lives will it cost?"

Bush's legacy for the history books is in the hands of arab muslims.


41 posted on 11/08/2006 4:30:06 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: LS

I've taken a liking to Former Spook. I'll post another in a second that made my hair stand on end.


42 posted on 11/08/2006 4:30:09 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Billthedrill
Now they're going to have to put up or shut up. A sudden withdrawal would place them in a precarious position politically and so I don't think it's on the front burner. But the demagoguery alone isn't going to cut it from here on in.

I tend to agree with you. I rather doubt the Dems pull the rug out from under our troops or commit another travesty like they did in 1975. Out in the open like this, it would destroy their national security credentials forever. At least, the rational Dems won't do it -- I can't speak for the irrational ones.

An interesting outcome of this election is that, with nominally conservative Democrats replacing the largely RINO losers, both parties are now more conservative.

I rather doubt the newly elected Dem "conservatives" will be allowed to do anything but toe the party line. And, the caucus being more conservative, the GOP conservatives should be more interested in gridlock than in achieving "bi-partisan accord". At least, if they don't wimp out to the media. But it is an interesting dynamic that could make for some interesting politics down the road.

43 posted on 11/08/2006 4:30:09 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Billthedrill

When the dems cut and run from Iraq and the US populous sees the terrorists dancing in the streets, declaring victory, burning our flag, they will know they made a mistake by giving the dems power. Shopping Mall bombings coming to a town near you. The Enemy will be encouraged to attack America. The place that can't stomach a fight!


44 posted on 11/08/2006 4:31:08 PM PST by CptRepublican (Relax....)
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To: CptRepublican
When the dems cut and run from Iraq and the US populous sees the terrorists dancing in the streets, declaring victory, burning our flag, they will know they made a mistake by giving the dems power.

The media will make sure we don't see those images.

45 posted on 11/08/2006 4:31:47 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: nosofar

Iraq is not sold out yet. Iraq wants another 12-18 months and they will get it.


46 posted on 11/08/2006 4:32:18 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: CWOJackson
Yes, but the important thing is the LP'ers and their friends taught the GOP a lesson yesterday.

And the feeding frenzy is just starting, I just can't wait to see their warm fuzzy plans to deal with our enemy.

47 posted on 11/08/2006 4:33:34 PM PST by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: LS

http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000136.html

Required reading for all. Sadly, a bit too late for this election cycle.


48 posted on 11/08/2006 4:33:35 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Billthedrill

"Well, with respect, no they didn't, or at least I don't recall Iraq on my ballot"

If you want any kind of pull in the new Congress then you had better tow the line. Thats how the system works. I remember lots of so called conservative southern Democrats that when it came down to the party line they bent over and smilled.


49 posted on 11/08/2006 4:33:35 PM PST by e_castillo
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To: nosofar

We'll be back in Iraq one day, even if we leave. It is sad but true. If the dems do not recognize what their responsibility is now, we will be fighting for a long, long time.

Hopefully, the liberal-communist, will have some ownership of this war and will begin to understand, with that ownership, that we are in an international war...


50 posted on 11/08/2006 4:35:06 PM PST by Porterville (I'm afraid the forces that want war are more than the forces who don't)
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To: CAP811
I just can't wait to see their warm fuzzy plans

They didn't get enough of a mandate to reveal any of their secret plans. If they reveal their plans now they would have no secret plans to reveal should they win the WH in '08. If they win anything at all in '08.

51 posted on 11/08/2006 4:36:57 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"You just outlined the entire Democrat platform in the last sentence."
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I know and it's making me mad as h*ll. I've got a son in high school and we were just talking about going into the service before going to college. If you see the problem and I see the problem WHY can't a majority of Americans see the problem?


52 posted on 11/08/2006 4:36:59 PM PST by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: NonValueAdded

I agree. Do you see any way out?


53 posted on 11/08/2006 4:37:49 PM PST by LS
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I understand. We've been trying to get my son to join Air Force ROTC. Not so sure anymore.


54 posted on 11/08/2006 4:38:23 PM PST by LS
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To: okie01

The last "conservative Democrat" I saw was leaving the party for retirement in Georgia, Zell Miller. Do you seriously think these people will for one second hew to any "conservative" principles when Fraulein Pelosi reads them the Nazi Party Bylaws upon their being sworn in?


55 posted on 11/08/2006 4:40:13 PM PST by LS
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To: LS

Unless he likes having baggies full of fecal material thrown at him by the hygenically challenged, he should not go into the military now.


56 posted on 11/08/2006 4:40:22 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: Frank Sheed

I read this yesterday---I think you posted it to me then.


57 posted on 11/08/2006 4:40:59 PM PST by LS
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To: Billthedrill

I think you're right, Mr. TheDrill. :-)

I suppose Iraq was part of the frustration of the voters, but I don't think it was really even most of it. All of the recent scandals, and the generally low opinion of congress in general was certainly a large part.

If anything I think many, if not most, of the voters would like to see *more* aggressive prosecution of Iraq than a pullout. That goes for a good portion of the democrats that were elected.

Said another way, if the whacko leadership of the dems put in for a vote to get out of Iraq now-- I don't think it would pass even among the dems.


58 posted on 11/08/2006 4:41:00 PM PST by Ramius
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To: nosofar

I am an Iraq agnostic, but one thing that is rarely pointed out in these stay the course stories is that the Iraqi people by a super majority want us to go. It's only the coalition government (well part of it) that wants us to stay. It's a fact on the ground that can only be ignored at our peril. The attitude is for the most part thankful we took out Saddam, but now Yanqui Go Home.


59 posted on 11/08/2006 4:43:05 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Frank Sheed

bttt for later read.


60 posted on 11/08/2006 4:44:02 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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