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Source: Cheney stuck by Rumsfeld
MSNBC ^ | November 8, 2006

Posted on 11/08/2006 2:39:24 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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But a source told NBC News’ military analyst Bill Arkin that prior to the election, Vice President Dick Cheney argued with other politicians over whether Rumsfeld should stay. White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and others said Rumsfeld should be removed, the source said. Both sides agreed the decision would be made after the election, when Bush would make the final call based on how Republicans did.

According to the source, Bush agreed Rumsfeld should be removed after seeing election results favoring Democrats. Cheney then lost another argument, protesting Gates’ nomination as Rumsfeld’s replacement.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; bushsfault; cheney; gates; rumsfeld; tossedunderbus; willmissrummy
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To: oceanview

Cheney is the only one protecting Bush from impeachment. The Libs will go after both, but can only get one at a time. If he retains any sense it should know Cheney is more repugnant to Kooks and therefore his buffer.

he had better treat him with more respect then he did Rummy and Ashcroft. Though I don't hold out hope.


41 posted on 11/08/2006 3:07:46 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: samtheman

Pelosi is in the house and cannot vote on Presdential appointments. That does not mean that Harry Reid et al do not agree with her, but I do not think she controls Harry Reid.


42 posted on 11/08/2006 3:08:50 PM PST by Wuli
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To: livius
What a difference a vowel makes!

Yep - and just because you said that I can't come up with any good wordplays. Oh well. it is getting too late here (GMT +1) and it was a looong night yesterday so enough Freeping for the day.

Cheers

43 posted on 11/08/2006 3:11:13 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: West Coast Conservative; bitt; SunkenCiv

44 posted on 11/08/2006 3:20:26 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: oceanview

NO WAY!


45 posted on 11/08/2006 3:20:59 PM PST by Darlin' ((,,,, ? OMG ! I've missplaced another tagline ?))
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To: DHC-2

we aren't used to it (having controlled Congress for 12 years), but the reality of our governmental system is you have to make compromises, even compromising your principles, in order to get some of what you want done.

Rumsfeld is a good man, an awesome man, and in a just world, wouldn't have any reason for resigning. but in politics, perception is truth. so thank the MSM, Democrats for brainwashing Americans for 6 straight years.


46 posted on 11/08/2006 3:22:48 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: Swordfished
Rove can't work miracles.
 
Most of the posters on FR should be fired...They failed to vote correctly.

47 posted on 11/08/2006 3:22:53 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Echo Talon

Rove is way overrated. He did a lousy job in managing the 2004 election. If the SBVFT had not saved his bacon, he would be unemployed now.


48 posted on 11/08/2006 3:24:18 PM PST by kabar
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To: Soul Seeker
The 'Rats could impeach Cheney or Bush by a straight party-line vote, even if they lost a few Democrats from conservative districts who balked at going along with such a travesty, but they would need a 2/3 vote for removal by the Senate, and they wouldn't be able to get that--there aren't enough RINOs to vote with them, and two or three of the Democrat senators would probably refuse to go along.

"High crimes and misdemeanors" can mean whatever Congress wants it to mean, but absence any evidence of wrong-doing, trying to remove the Vice President or President for blatantly partisan reasons would not go over well with the middle-of-the-road voters.

49 posted on 11/08/2006 3:25:35 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: oceanview
Rove has always been over-rated. Always. We should have crushed Kerry in 2004.

We did not lose 2006 because Rove failed.

50 posted on 11/08/2006 3:25:51 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I think the one "big ticket" item, and which is an elephant in the room on this issue, has less to do with the outcome of the election than it does the Baker-Hamilton commission report.

The GOP leaders in the House excepted the idea of the commission, grudingly, while naively (1)not putting much stock in it, and (2) therefor not caring too much about who was on the commission and its staff; and (3)failed to calculate the left-Dim-media putsch that would come from the commission's end-product - NO MATTER HOW MUCH STOCK THEY DID NOT CREDIT THE COMMISSION PROCESS WITH.

They also failed to calculate just how partisan and independent the commission would become, even when even most of its GOP members opposed the Iraq invasion to begin with.

A few weeks ago, the commission's inevitable, partisan, everything-about-the-Iraq-venture-was-wrong analysis began leaking out from Baker and Hamilton themselves, even after they agreed the report would not come out until after the election.

No matter what the election outcome was, the "defense policy" side of the Iraq issue was already slated to get nothing but criticism, from Baker et al, period. The House leadership created a situation that Bush could not win on (Rummy) no matter how things went this fall in Iraq and no matter who kept control of Congress.

Letting Rummy go is an attempt to get out ahead of the Baker-Hamilton report; more than anything else.


51 posted on 11/08/2006 3:26:10 PM PST by Wuli
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To: kabar

well.. he was pretty distracted with BS court appearances and all.


52 posted on 11/08/2006 3:26:24 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Swordfished

I'm very disappointed that he was thrown overboard. And for what? Does the President really think that appeasement will do him any favors?


53 posted on 11/08/2006 3:26:30 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Gee, Mr. Cheney, check out this cool bright red and white target! We'll just stick it right here on your back ... damn, that sure looks good on you!"

</MSM>


54 posted on 11/08/2006 3:28:14 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: West Coast Conservative
The real mystery to me is why Pres Bush let Donald Rumsfeld go less than 24 hours after the election results were in. I would think it would have been better to show some reflectin and wait until this weekend to make that move. I am of the opinion that a deal was made with Pelosi that factors in to the decision and it had to be done immediately to make it happen. I'm thinking that the RATS would go one way with a deal and another more unpleasant way if the President balked. Stuff is going on that we won't know about until some book comes out down the road. Surely, Pres Bush knows that the RATS are unappeasable, will always want more and would sooner lie than tell the truth. It will be interesting to watch this Republican-RAT power play unfold.
55 posted on 11/08/2006 3:28:28 PM PST by mountainfolk (God Bless President George Bush)
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To: DoughtyOne

The more Pres. Bush gives in to the terrorists and the Dems, the more they attack him.


56 posted on 11/08/2006 3:29:33 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: West Coast Conservative

If Cheney is going to resign, now is the time to do it, before the Dems take over Congress.


57 posted on 11/08/2006 3:30:11 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Diogenesis

I would resign rather than kiss the ass of an San Fransisco liberal. Bush lost lots of respect from me today.


58 posted on 11/08/2006 3:33:12 PM PST by afraid
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To: West Coast Conservative

How can this be? The BDS sufferers have told us that Cheney was Bush's brain.


59 posted on 11/08/2006 3:34:58 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Howlin

WTH?! Are you serious? I've walked away from all of it this afternoon so missed a lot...but my headache is gone!

At least...til I read THAT!


60 posted on 11/08/2006 3:36:17 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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