The Truth About Beslan - What Putin's government is covering up

MIHOP or LIHOP?

Nice to see that even the Russians have their own conspiracy theorists, although I'm guessing they may be correct more often than the ones in the US.

Has Nancy announced there will be changes?

What's a Russian conspiracy theory without the CIA boogeyman?

Putin accuses 'complicit' West of harbouring Chechen terrorists - 09/18/2004 - Vladimir Putin, yesterday accused the West of harbouring Chechen terrorists, speaking hours after rebel leader Shamil Basayev claimed responsibility for the Beslan school massacre.

FYI

I don't see anything that lends to a conspiracy here. I believe they just bungled the assault, much the way they did when Chechens took the Moscow theater hostages.

The flame thrower to which the tubes belonged shoots a capsule that on detonation creates a fireball and a shock wave capable of destroying everything in its path

Huh?

There is a stench to this rendering of the Beslan massacre. If the terrorists were really open to mediation, why were they so brutal to the hostages? The weather was beastly hot and the captives were not given any water; they had to resort to drinking their own urine. The men were separated from the women & children and murdered in another area of the school.
It doesn't seem that the invaders had much interest in negotiating a settlement. And Putin couldn't have cared less about the loss of innocents.

Here are some old articles, also from Novaya Gazeta - the same paper which murdered journalist Anna Politkovskaya worked for. They are poor translations, but not as bad as the above article.

Novaya Gazeta, October 21st, 2004:

What was on the roof of building no. 39?

Novaya Gazeta has already written about how the Beslan hostages' stories differ from the official portrayal of the assault (see issue no. 74 from October 7th). Russian television has also confirmed that special forces used the incendiary rocket launcher 'Bumblebee' during the assault. A little while ago parliamentarian Arkady Baskayev, a member of the commission investigating the terror act, in an interview with BBC stated that in the course of the school storming, heavily equipped units used grenade and incendiary rocket launchers. Important questions now remain. First: at what stage of the assault - while hostages were still in the school, or when only rebels remained - did they use this particular incendiary weapon, which the Geneva convention forbids 'under any circumstances against any target near a concentrated civilian populace'. And secondly: will this information be officially confirmed or denied?
The media was not permitted into the commission meetings. The commission declared a desire to conduct closed hearings. Ruslan Kastuyev, press spokesman for the North Caucasus president, deflected inconvenient questions as best he could:
"Ruslan, is it true that fire-rocket launchers were used during the assault?"
"The commission does not know at this time. It came here in order to find out."
"But Deputat Baskayev said that they were actually used, and he is also a member of the commission."
"Baskayev knows, but at this time the rest do not."
Meanwhile, local residents have long since known what the commission has yet to dig up. During the storming of the Beslan school, the special forces used 'Bumblebee' incendiary rocket launchers.
* * *
Five-storey buildings on School Alley - the closest to the school. In the first hours after the seizure of the hostages, all of the residents were asked to leave the premesis. Men with rocket launchers sat on the roofs. Corner apartments on the top floors were occupied by snipers and grenadiers. No one lives in these apartments now - they have been almost completely burned out. When the fire-fight began, sparks set fire to curtains and wallpaper. Lower apartments also suffered - they were flooded when the upper-floor fires were put out. The city administration is hurriedly performing the most basic, standard renovations, and is buying residents new furniture.
Gregoriy Beroyev's apartment is not a corner apartment. There were no special forces there. Only Gregoriy was in it during the assault; he refused to leave.
"They occupied the apartments on the first of September," Gregoriy recalled. "At first they just sat, but when our leaders said that no one was going to let the children go, they started the assault. They fired on the school. What they did here! They fired so much that I thought the walls were going to fall in."
I asked him what they were shooting, rocket launchers?
"No, the guys with the rockets were sitting on the roof."
One can easily reach the roof of building 39 through the garret. On the roof, just past the stairwell-housing, a bunch of rags are strewn about. A lot of carelessly opened, unlabelled cans are there, as well as an entire mountain of sugar in single-use packets. Metallic brackets of television antennas. If one runs their hand across them, it comes back soiled with soot. Rocket exhaust singed them, confirms Elbrus Tedtov, a former tank crewman and now chief of a company of SWAT police. Under the rubberoid covering, one can find a few shell casings, but someone had time to do a clean up. A new broom is laying nearby.
One by one, men in civilian clothes call on the inhabitants of the surrounding homes, asking them not to talk too much. Police officer Aleksandr P. said that after the assault, he was brought in for questioning:
"They said to me: in one of your houses there were some television people. Where is the cassette? And I said: you should ask the them. But they kept demanding the cassette anyway."
FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH
Our military specialist, Vyacheslav Izmailov, got in touch with a member of the parliamentary security committee, Colonel-General Arkadiy Baskayev, who works in a sub-committee of the commission studying the activities of law enforcement and special forces during the period of the Beslan school hostages' seizure and liberation.
"Arkadiy Georgiyevich, a few days ago during a radio interview, you said that heavy artillery was used against the terrorists in Beslan.
"It wasn't quite like that. The 58th Army command in Vladikavkaz reported the use of heavy ordnance, but their subdivisions were only put in action during the liberation of the hostages, as well as in explosives clean up afterwards."
"Was heavy ordnance used while there were still hostages in the school?"
"No. Right now we are working in Beslan in order to find out, in the most minute detail, how the responsible parties, the staff that worked to free the hostages, law enforcement agencies, the military, how everyone who took part in this operation acted."
"Will the results of your commission's work be published?"
"They will be published in full. Here, there can be no secrets, with the exception, perhaps, of certain details concerning technical equipment which could be used sometime again in the future, and should not be disclosed to the terrorists. We also cannot publish the names of special unit officers who are active in the destruction of terrorists."

Novaya Gazeta

How they stormed the school

There is more and more evidence that, from the very beginning, there was no special operation for freeing the hostages prepared, but a combat operation to destroy rebels at all costs. According to eyewitness accounts (confirmed by Russian television), the spetsnaz used the rocket incendiary 'Bumblebee'

       Housings of grenade launchers, disturbingly similar to 'Bumblebee'. Found on a roof opposite the school. Apparantly fire was conducted from here onto the hostage-filled school, using shells that cause a massive explosion. Perhaps this is why there are so many 'missing without a trace'.

       Data:
       Incendiary rocket launcher 'Bumblebee', single-use:
       Sighting range - to 600 meters; minimum range - 20 meters; weight - 12 kg; length - 920 mm; caliber - 93 mm.
       A gunpowder ejection charge shoots from a sealed barrel-container a capsule containing a highly combustible liquid. Firing can be conducted from an area of less than 60 cubic meters in volume. When the capsule breaks upon striking the target, the liquid quickly evaporates and turns into a fuel-air mix, which is ignited by an initiator charge. The volumetric explosion of this mini-vacuum bomb has great destructive kinetic energy in closed spaces and shelters, as well as against lightly armored vechicles, due to its thermobaric (high-temperature shock wave) effect. The explosive force of the RPO-A capsule 'is more powerful than a 122 mm howitzer shell'.

       The third protocol of the 1980 Geneva Convention (ratified by Russia) forbids the use of incendiary weapons 'under any circumstances against an object located near a civilian population'


       President Vladimir Putin was, of course, correct when he came out decisively against a public investigation into the tragedy at Beslan. Neither Stalin, nor Khrushchev, nor Brezhnev would have let a 'parliamentary commissions' get close. But our government these days is weak, and whenever it is threatened, it immediately retreats.
       Obviously, the Kremlin was hoping that the parliamentary commission, under the direction of the extremely obedient Federal Council, would work in private and in a year or two publish some extracts of secret reports, which society would scarely notice, since it had already forgotten about Beslan because of new calamities and tragedies.
       This was not well thought out by our chiefs, and Putin's vertical line of authority turns out to be nothing more than a stick inserted into a bog.
       In Russia nowadays it is practically impossible to keep anything secret for long. Local residents and the military in Beslan have talked to the commission, and continue to talk openly. Information and rumors spread and fall into print. The official version of the evens of 1-3 September, which from the very beginning were full of internal contradictions and incongruities, is falling apart before their very eyes.
       After it became clear that 90% of the hostages were either wounded or killed, the powers began to assert that there was no 'storm' planned, that the spetsnaz were just hanging about the school for three days, and later acted on the situation, so these losses - including among the 'Vympel' and 'Alfa' of the FSB - were to be expected. It was declared that the terrorists 'shot children in the back', though no proof of any kind was offered. The character of battle, where everyone was shooting willy-nilly, does not allow us to accurately determine who was shot 'in the back', and who simply got caught in the cross fire. Of course, this in no way justifies the terrorists, who put the children in the path of death and bullets.
       There is more and more evidence that, from the very beginning, there was no special operation for freeing the hostages prepared, but a combat operation to destroy rebels at all costs. According to the official chronical of events, at 14:02 on September 3rd, there were several explosions, as if accidental, and some of the hostages ran away. The Ossetian police officers and 'militia' opened fire, but the operational headquarters continued to call the terrorists, offering to cease fire, and only at about 3 O'clock did the FSB's spetsnaz begin storming the school. In reality, on September 3rd the operational headquarters had in bravado informed the news agencies that the school had been occupied by the troops, and that the hostages had been freed. In truth, the battle raged another twelve hours.
       By the way, at 14:17, according to a time hack on a foreign television broadcast, while they seemingly were trying to stop the storming of the school, an Mi-24 strike helicopter was patrolling the air above the school. The heavily armored machine could not have appeared so suddenly if it had not been made ready for flight in advance, and if the crew had not earlier been instructed about the area and rules of engagement. Now, according to statements by the local residents, it so happens that the Mi-24 did not just patrol, but fired on Beslan on September 3rd.
       An Mi-24 may fly and accurately engage targets only in daytimes and in good weather. Therefore, tanks from the 58th army group were sent in, most likely a long time previous to this, and used for direct fire. Whoever saw pictures from the chronicles of the battles in Moscow on October, 1993, can imagine what such direct tank fire can do in a city.
       The holy aim of any anti-terror operation is to save as many innocents as possible. To achieve this, they conduct negotiations, make concessions, promise to carry out demands, and in so doing try to calm and cajole the terrorists to free as many hostages as possible. Only when the possibilites for bargaining are fully exhausted, and the number of hostages has been substantially reduced, is force used, and in so doing, in a surgically precise manner.
       In Beslan they did not attempt to make concessions, or conduct negotiations in earnest about curtailing the war in Chechnya - the main demand of hostage-takers. No, they whipped the terrorists into a frenzy, and later, a disorganized, confused military operation for cleaning out the school spontaneously began.
       According to eyewitness accounts (and Russian television confirms this), the spetsnaz used the rocket incendiary 'Bumblebee', with its thermobaric warhead (RPO-A).
       During the storming of Grozny in January, 1995, units of the chemical corps, attached to assault teams, used these rocket incendiary launchers widely and to great effect in suppressing firing points and snipers - by burning out buildings.
       Now they go to liberate child hostages with flamethrowers. Evidently, the spetsnaz guessed that in using 'Bumblebee' there would be no one left alive. In the course of an operation combining tanks, aircraft, and flamethrowers against one separate school building, chances of rescue were truly very small.

       Pavel Fel'gengauer, Reviewer for «New Gazeta»


Specialist's Commentary

       Colonel Aleksandr Silin (first and last names changed) commanded a chemical services unit in Chechnya, which was equipped with with the reaktivnye pekhotnye ognemety 'rocket infantry flamethrower' (RPO), which carried the code name 'Bumblebee':        — The RPO 'Bumblebee' uses 3 types of projectiles: incendiary or napalm; smoke, which can lay down a smokescreen over an area of more than 3 km; and thermobaric, that creates such high temperature and pressure that an explosion of great power is produced. Shooting 3 thermobaric projectiles from a 'Bumblebee' at a 5-story building can completely destroy it.
       I doubt that they could fire such charges at the school. It is possible that could have substituted a considerably smaller thermobaric warhead than used on the 'Bumblebee', based on the RPG-7 rocket launcher. This projectile we named 'pig'. The operating principle is the same as on the 'Bumblebee', only the power of the blast is less. These charges cannot be used indoors, since the RPG and RPO tubes cause a strong back-blast, which can even slay the one firing the weapon.

       By Vyacheslav IZMAYLOV, military reviewer of Novaya Gazeta.

       07.10.2004

n fact, the conditions suggested by Basayev were not unreasonable. While he proposed formal independence for Chechnya in exchange for security for Russia

Oh yes! How wonderfully reasonable that Basayev is, what a great guy! Maybe this guy thinks the same about Bin Laden, surely us leaving the Middle East and cutting all aid to Israel is little to ask in return for them not killing us? Disgusting! This takes the cake as the most twisted Russophobic piece yet posted here. Considering the actions of our own media during these recent elections, it becomes more clear every day why Putin had to clamp down on his own traitorous media. So many journalists worldwide are willing accomplices of Islamic Radicals. When your actions as a journalist result in death and the advancement of the terrorist agenda, you should not be allowed to sit under the shield of "media freedom". Russia lost the first Chechen War because of their traitorous media, they won the second one because they were muzzled. We will not win the WOT until we learn we have to muzzle our own such as CNN and their sniper video.

Seems to me that grenade launcher fits the description better than "flamethrower" -- but I'm just a civilian.

The Russian nomenclature is RPO, or reaktivniy pekhotniy ognemet ("reactive (rocket) flamethrower for infantry"). Ognemet is the same as the classic, liquid-fuel backpack device we associate with "flamethrower", but this weapon is pretty revolutionary - it launches a fuel-air explosive grenade (mini-MOAB). Supposedly Russian infantry love the Schmel (Bumblebee), since it has lots of uses. Knocking down buildings to clear fields of fire, launching smoke grenades, and even conventional RPG-type munitions.

In one of the articles a military specialist debunks the use of the RPO with full-power thermobaric charges, since - in his opinion - there wouldn't have been anything left of the school afterwards.

I think that it may have been only used to lay down smoke, but it's pretty hard to discount the survivor's accounts.

I pray that our military will never have to make the decisions that the spetsnaz soldiers had to make at Beslan, but I suspect that it's only a matter of time before we have our own Nordosts and Beslans.

Big surprise. When it all said and done, the trail will probably lead right back to the FSB/Putin. Remember the apartment bombings???

The flame thrower to which the tubes belonged shoots a capsule that on detonation creates a fireball and a shock wave capable of destroying everything in its path

Huh?

Thermobaric grenade, to the technically minded. Available as a round for the RPG-7, but a larger version was probably at use at Beslan both to open a doorway and as a *distraction device.*