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To: indylindy
"The president has to pump up Americans along with the troops. "

I'm an American and a troop. He pumps me up. But then, I don't demand to have my way on every issue. Maybe that's because I am a troop.

"If you are fighting Islamic fascism, you cannot say they are good guys"

When has the President EVER said Islamic fascists were good guys? I'm a big right winger, but I don't think right wing fascists are good guys.

"He never has understood jihad, until too late."

Actually, your previous statements indicate it is YOU who doesn't understand the war on jihad. This is going to come as a real shock to many, but the leading military warriors right now are advocating a strategy of victory through decreasing firepower. They want to pinpoint and destroy the sources that create jihadists because trying to kill all the jihadists is the equivalent of swatting mosquitoes with a baseball bat. Now, these military warriors have been fighting these jihadists in the trenches for years. They KNOW what they are talking about. And their approach is becoming very similar to what you claim Bush's is.

"This is why he has failed."

First of all, he hasn't failed. We are winning. But our greatest weak point is the very fickle and weak American public. We are truly a Burger King population. We want it our way and we want it our way now. The fact of the matter is, anything really worth having takes a lot of time and effort to achieve. Apparently, most Americans cannot understand that.

173 posted on 11/08/2006 3:32:37 PM PST by Rokke
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To: Rokke

Oh yes buddy, I understand it, my son is in the military. You can't have it both ways. This is the nature of this struggle. I am speaking of how a lot of Americans that voted for the Dems see it and what the media has portrayed. I do not SEE it that way. These people see it that the enemy is not really defined. Some of them are okay and some are not. Confusing to the average Joe. I like Bush as a man, I know he means well, but he needed to sell it to those who are out there who are confused as to the threat. I Want Us to win and I support all you guys. The Dems and the left do not. They have obviously sold their bill of wares to the people. I never said they are good guys, but Bush does go to Cair stuff and tells them they are good Americans. To me they are not, to alot of us they are not. Is it possible that we can quit telling them that.? NO, BUSH HAS NOT TOLD ISLAMIC FASCISTS THEY ARE GOOD GUYS, BUT HE HAS NOT TOLD cair THAT WE AIN'T PUTTIN'UP WITH YOUR SHIT EITHER. Win the jihad and we win no matter what it takes.


174 posted on 11/08/2006 3:51:35 PM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: Rokke
But our greatest weak point is the very fickle and weak American public. We are truly a Burger King population

...and don't forget "stupid". A great line from Men In Black..
"the person is smart..
the people are stupid".

That having been said, there's a gigantic stink about this whole affair. It doesn't make sense and it isn't logical, at least not to me.

I would really like to know the facts about which groups voted in which directions. I'm still not buying the "stay at home" scenario until I see the facts.

Not to worry though, we'll get over this hiccup. George W. Bush is a true leader and even he may feel let down and disappointed but I predict he's been misunderestimated...once again.

181 posted on 11/08/2006 6:52:09 PM PST by evad
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