[JeffAtlanta]

And, of course, all of the "true conservatives" have just played their part in dooming any effort there. I mean, even if (when?) we win a majority in Congress back in 2008, do you think that any future President (of either party) will be willing to make the effort that Bush made on the issue?

By that logic, the democrats would have abandonned socialism in 1994 when they were defeated.

For all of Bush's positives, he does have a deficiency when it comes to getting his message across. Social Security was a good example - I know the MSM hates him but he didn't do himself any favors on the issue either.

[furquhart]

Democrats didn't try to push Hillarycare after 1994, did they?

Heck, the whole defining character of the Democrat Party after 1994 was Clinton's "triangulation."

That's got to be what Bush and others are thinking right now, given how well it worked in Califorinia - and for Clinton.