[spinestein]

["You force freedom on the maniacs by delivering it to the good people all around them."]

[[When has that ever worked?]]

It worked in Europe and in Japan after WWII under the Marshall plan.


[" You saw the pictures of the purple fingers. If you think the majority of Iraqi's don't want freedom you are sadly mistaken."]

[[Freedom to do WHAT? "Democracy" is only head-counting.]]

Freedom of self determination and the ability to buy and sell in a free market economy. The people of Iraq and Afghanistan (in the heart of former Jihadist country) are experiencing it more and more every day and if they can get used to it for even a few years, they'll never give it up to go back to living in dirt houses without electricity and running water and selling camel dung for a living.

[EnochPowellWasRight]

"It worked in Europe and in Japan after WWII under the Marshall plan."

That required the aforementioned utter defeat and destruction of their very ideology. That is NOT what is happening here.

"Freedom of self determination and the ability to buy and sell in a free market economy."

You mean the "freedom" the Palestinians voted for?

"they'll never give it up to go back to living in dirt houses without electricity and running water and selling camel dung for a living."

They had a better country at one point. Left to their own devices, camel dung was the best they could do.