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To: libertylovinactivist
libertylovinactivist Since Oct 6, 2006

And yet despite all their bellicose angst and relentless self promotion, they STILL have yet to elect even ONE person to ANY office ANY where.

2 posted on 11/07/2006 7:04:50 AM PST by MNJohnnie (The Democrat Party: Hard on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism!)
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To: MNJohnnie

But I think the point of the article was that they are stealing away votes from Republicans. Voting Libertarian is seen by some as a protest vote.


5 posted on 11/07/2006 7:06:19 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: MNJohnnie

I just returned from a monetary conference at Hillsdale with a lot of Libertarians, and they really are angry people. I don't even want to read "Reason" mag any more. They are completely detached from reality when it comes to national security because . . . SURPRISE . . . they don't approve of nations!


8 posted on 11/07/2006 7:07:14 AM PST by LS
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To: MNJohnnie

If you don't want 'em, let 'em go.


9 posted on 11/07/2006 7:07:36 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MNJohnnie
And yet despite all their bellicose angst and relentless self promotion, they STILL have yet to elect even ONE person to ANY office ANY where

And the big-spending, internationalist, pro-illegal immigrant Republican party, in conjunction with the big spending, internationalist, pro-illegal immigrant Democrat party seem to working together to change that

11 posted on 11/07/2006 7:08:12 AM PST by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: MNJohnnie
There have been plenty of Libertarians elected to office, just not on the national level.
18 posted on 11/07/2006 7:14:29 AM PST by WackySam ("There's room for all God's creatures- right next to the taters")
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To: MNJohnnie
And yet despite all their bellicose angst and relentless self promotion, they STILL have yet to elect even ONE person to ANY office ANY where

Do your homework.

22 posted on 11/07/2006 7:17:03 AM PST by gdani (Save the cheerleader, save the world)
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To: MNJohnnie

I think they've gotten dog catcher and sewer inspector in a couple of out of the way places.


27 posted on 11/07/2006 7:19:46 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Bill Masters, sheriff of Telluride County, Colorado.


33 posted on 11/07/2006 7:24:11 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: MNJohnnie
The luck for third parties may change in TX. In the 28th congressional district there are two dems in a cut throat fight for the seat and one member of the constitution party. The reps did not run anyone. This district usually goes about 60% to 40% rat. But if the 2 dems can split the vote enough the Constitution party can win this seat. As I understand it they are making a full court press.
45 posted on 11/07/2006 7:42:10 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: MNJohnnie
The size of the House majority in 1994 was heavily influenced by libertarian concerns, or, if you prefer, concerns about liberty.

Liberty-lovers who stormed the polls in 1994 to elect Republicans are now indifferent to the fate of the Republican majority. That's a fact.

Why it's so is controversial. My 2c is that the constant Rovian emphasis on "the base" has marginalized this segment of the coalition.

The GOP base is too small to reliably win elections. Neither party now stands for liberty.

You can satirize liberdopians all you want (and they richly deserve it).

But the concept that a government which is big enough to give you what you want is big enough to take it all away IS the unity message that can deliver relaible majorities for whoever champions it.

THIS is what the Bush-Rove axis has singularly failed to do.

And they are about to get their asses kicked as a result.

57 posted on 11/07/2006 8:10:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (If we can't leave a democracy behind, we should at least leave the corpses of our enemies.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Isn't Ron Paul a Libertarian?


80 posted on 11/07/2006 8:53:21 AM PST by moondoggie
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To: MNJohnnie
And yet despite all their bellicose angst and relentless self promotion, they STILL have yet to elect even ONE person to ANY office ANY where.

Johnnie, if you really feel that much "bellicose angst and relentless" denigration of the libertarian philosophy, and are so convinced that the GOP is doing everything right, why worry about their votes. If they agree with the GOP positions and actions, then they'll have no position to run on and they'll vote for you; if not, who cares because you obviously don't need their input.

The truth of the matter is that the GOP wants the votes of the people who support concepts like smaller government, protection of property rights, equal protection under the law, lower taxes, a balanced budget, paying off the national debt, and individual liberty and responsibility, but the GOP doesn't want to actually implement those ideas when they get elected.

If we don't need or want those libertarian votes, then we can do whatever we want if and when we're elected. But if we want those people to vote for us, then we'd better be prepared to embrace and support their values.

We had an "unbeatable majority" when we were "talking the talk," but the voters have a way of holding us accountable when we don't "walk the walk."

139 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:44 AM PST by Small-L ("Government is not the answer to our problems -- government IS the problem." -- RR)
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To: MNJohnnie

"And yet despite all their bellicose angst and relentless self promotion, they STILL have yet to elect even ONE person to ANY office ANY where."

True, but neither did the Republican party win the presidency until Lincoln. I'm not a libertarian, but their views have more similarity to Reagan's than we're seeing from our national Republican leaders.


206 posted on 11/08/2006 8:38:12 AM PST by King David (I have not even begun to fight)
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To: MNJohnnie

What about Thomas Jefferson and more recently Ron Paul? Both libertarian.


221 posted on 11/08/2006 11:14:25 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MNJohnnie

BTW - if the GOP wanted libertarian votes - why didn't they try to earn them with their actions over the last 12 years?

Really why?


224 posted on 11/08/2006 11:18:16 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MNJohnnie
Liberty voters (not Libertarians) elected the 1994 Republican majority.

In all the years the Democrats were in power they always "took care" of their factions. Not every faction got all that they wanted - but they all got something.

The Liberty voter's interests have a vanishingly small place in the Rove "base".

This is an error, and will hopefully be reversed soon.

322 posted on 11/09/2006 6:50:07 AM PST by Jim Noble (To preserve the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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