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Spanish Masses debated Priest accused of encouraging illegal immigrants
theunion.com ^ | 11/05/06 | Soumetro Sen

Posted on 11/06/2006 6:04:54 AM PST by Kimberly GG

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1 posted on 11/06/2006 6:04:55 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Kimberly GG

The church's position is not wishy washy at all. They want money and they see an untapped resource.


2 posted on 11/06/2006 6:08:59 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: Wage Slave

And I am a practicing Catholic, just in case I get accused of Catholic bashing.


3 posted on 11/06/2006 6:09:52 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: Kimberly GG

"Another predicate act that would make an employer liable under RICO is encouraging or inducing "an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law."16 The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals has specifically interpreted this provision to apply to actions that encourage illegal aliens already in the United States to remain or that induce further illegal immigration.17 The Fourth Circuit held that "‘encouraging’ is not limited to bringing in, transporting or concealing illegal aliens. Rather, ‘encouraging’ relates to actions taken to convince the illegal alien to come to this country or to stay in this country."18 The Court held that a range of activities would meet this definition — fertile ground for a good plaintiff attorney.'

RICO: A New Tool for
Immigration Law Enforcement
http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1103.html


4 posted on 11/06/2006 6:10:33 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: Kimberly GG
From what I'm reading, the Police Chief would readily arrest Mr. Yarborough for pointing out an obvious crime in progress?

Pardon my French, Kim (and all ladies reading this post)...but WTF?

5 posted on 11/06/2006 6:13:04 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA (Tancredo/Paul 2008)
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To: Kimberly GG

I see the same thing in my own Catholic parish, but I try to leave both politics and business outside of attendance at Mass. I don't agree with the flawed thinking of some of our Catholic clergy on this issue, but I'm at Mass to join in worship and take the Eucharist - not to discuss or debate politics. I have at times left church to find that cars in the parking lot have been "papered" with political flyers. I note the candidate's name and make sure NOT to support them.


6 posted on 11/06/2006 6:13:39 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy

I can remember even as a kid different Parishes in Cali having a spanish Mass and at least once a month up here but at one Parish more often now.

Nothing new.
And you are absolutely right we are there to take part in the Holy Eucharist and go to Penance.

Some one posted on a thread the other day all veils should be banned meaning muslim my first thought was will that have to include Catholic head coverings as some of the women still wear and bridal viels....if one goes they all end up calling for zero tolerance...heck the summer bandana may even come under that rule.



7 posted on 11/06/2006 6:29:14 AM PST by Global2010
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To: Kimberly GG

Oh for heaven's sake, how stupid is this! Priests should deny the sacraments to illegal immigrants? That is ridiculous.


8 posted on 11/06/2006 6:30:01 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Wage Slave

Guess we better encourage Priests to turn in those confessing sins that would also violate civil/federal laws.


9 posted on 11/06/2006 6:31:32 AM PST by Global2010
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To: Wage Slave

There are several Churches in Chicago (and I'm sure in other cities) that have Polish Masses.


10 posted on 11/06/2006 6:32:51 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Global2010

Sorry, I don't understand your point.


11 posted on 11/06/2006 6:36:42 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: Wage Slave

They want money?
Isn't it an obligation as a Catholic along with other obligations such as attending on Holy Days, fasting, going to Penance to give tithe.


12 posted on 11/06/2006 6:36:57 AM PST by Global2010
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To: Ready4Freddy

Why? Are they recent immigrants?


13 posted on 11/06/2006 6:37:31 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Did you read somewhere in the article that Priests should deny the sacrement to illegal immigrants?

The complaint is about catering to and encouraging illegal immigrants/immigration by offering mass in Spanish. Under RICO statutes, it is criminal, not ridiculous.

If you makes you feel any better, Catholic Churces are not the only denominations doing so. There is a Baptist church in Columbus, just down the street from me, that does so as well.


14 posted on 11/06/2006 6:38:45 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: Kimberly GG

Really bad headline - I thought it meant that tons of Spanish people were attempting to debate with this Priest.


15 posted on 11/06/2006 6:38:49 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Ready4Freddy

True, but I wonder how many of their Polish attendees are here illegally.


16 posted on 11/06/2006 6:40:32 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Plus how is the Priest going to know will he require citizen papers "The body of Christ, green card please" LOL


17 posted on 11/06/2006 6:40:54 AM PST by Global2010
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To: Global2010

My point is this: offering mass in languages other than English is not necessary. It is their responsibility to learn English if they come to the United States. There is a Spanish mass at my church, and I have never seen any hispanics at any of the English masses. It is my opinion that the Spanish mass discourages assimilation.

I can't speak for those outside of my immediate Central Virginia area, or outside of Northern Virginia, where I used to live, but I have observed the pandering to illegals that goes on among the priests in these area and it makes me question their motivation.


18 posted on 11/06/2006 6:46:15 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: Kimberly GG

Clergymen should be charged with RICO for offering masses in Spanish? That is lunacy. Keep in mind the Democrats wanted to use the RICO statute to stifle pro-life protesters at abortion clinics. The clergy is not there to enforce the immigration laws, that is the government's job. Take up your beef with them.


19 posted on 11/06/2006 6:46:54 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Global2010

First he will have to learn Spanish, because many of his parishioners have rejected English.


20 posted on 11/06/2006 6:48:29 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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