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To: rob777

'Right, under Armey the GOP House forced Clinton to accept some spending cuts and pass welfare reform '

Hmm.... are you referring to devastating budget cuts to the intelligence and the military that happened under Clinton and whem Armey was house leader? It is well known most of Clinton/Gore spending cuts were on the military budget on which they built their surplus. Under Delays house leadership Congress passed some real tax cuts which would have been bigger if not for the senate. Granted Armey had a hostile President which Delay did not face, but it does not give him any right to attack Republicans when he is short on achievements.


124 posted on 11/05/2006 11:10:28 PM PST by GregH
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To: GregH
"Hmm.... are you referring to devastating budget cuts to the intelligence and the military that happened under Clinton and whem Armey was house leader? It is well known most of Clinton/Gore spending cuts were on the military budget on which they built their surplus. Under Delays house leadership Congress passed some real tax cuts which would have been bigger if not for the senate. Granted Armey had a hostile President which Delay did not face, but it does not give him any right to attack Republicans when he is short on achievements."





I am referring to the government shutdown that happened when the GOP Congress cut out whole departments and trimmed the budget to such an extent that Clinton vetoed the whole deal. The GOP Senate under Dole finally caved and the shutdown ended. Clinton was forced to cut back on some spending, though nowhere near as much as much as the GOP House had proposed. They also forced his hand in signing welfare reform. In addition, let's not forget that they defeated "Hillary Care" when they were still in the minority. DOMESTIC spending increased far more under Bush and the current Congress than it did under Clinton. Of course Clinton does not deserve credit for this, it was the young turks within the GOP who came to power in 1994. (Armey was one of the generals)

Yes, the current GOP leadership got some tax cuts through, but they have an absolutely INDEFENSIBLE record on spending.
When Mike Pence and the RSC proposed some budget cuts to offset all of the Katrina related spending, the GOP leadership, Delay included, read him the riot act. Delay had the nerve to say that there was no more areas of the budget that could be cut. Mike Pence and the RSC took the bait and made their rebellion public thus forcing the GOP leadership to enact some "minimal" cuts as offsets to Katrina spending. If not for a public rebellion on the part of Pence and the RSC, we probably would not have even got those few cuts. If not for a public rebellion on the part of conservatives, we would of had Harriet Myers on the Supreme Court instead of Alito.

Do you really think that limited government conservatives have not come to the conclusion that the only way to get the current GOP leadership to take this cause seriously is to public ally rebel? While I do not want to see the Dems come to power, I most certainly do want to see a little rebellion within the GOP ranks. As Jefferson said "A Little rebellion is a good thing, as necessary in the political world as storms are in the physical world".
127 posted on 11/06/2006 6:30:18 AM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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