[TexasNative2000]

Here's the amazing reality of this entire episode:

Four months ago, Joe Leiberman gets booted out of the Democratic primary for being too supportive of the war. Now, along comes John Kerry who is essentially an albatross to the Democrats because he is too critical of the troops.

So, two of the last four top-of-the-ticket Democrats (Lieberman in 2000, Kerry in 2004) are now outcasts of their party for being on opposite sides of the same issue. Explain that twisted logic.

[goldstategop]

The Democrats' problem is they hate the war and they want to sound tough on national security but they can't figure out how to reconcile the incoherence in being both pacifists and hawks at the same time.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[okie01]

So, two of the last four top-of-the-ticket Democrats (Lieberman in 2000, Kerry in 2004) are now outcasts of their party for being on opposite sides of the same issue. Explain that twisted logic

The difference is this:

Lieberman said what he meant, but never should have meant it.

Kerry said what he meant, but never should have said it.

[2111USMC]

"Explain that twisted logic.

Hillary.