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To: rudy45
"Do you believe, as I do, that the coaches thought, after the telephone call, that they could play johnny as they saw fit, even if it meant that he missed some downs on defense?"

No. I believe this is now what the coaches want the press to believe.

"However, it just so happened that their judgment coincided with the father's demands."

Every game. All season. Until the one game where the father was out of town. I don't buy it. I don't believe the coaches.

I mean, sure. It's possible. Just like the sound of hooves could be zebras and not horses.

97 posted on 11/04/2006 8:18:12 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Just like the sound of hooves could be zebras and not horses.

That depends on just where on earth you are.

If the coaches violated his conditions for playing his son, he should have removed his son from the team, not the coaches.

98 posted on 11/04/2006 8:24:42 AM PST by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn’t really talk — he was hitting on my wife)
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To: robertpaulsen
Every game. All season. Until the one game where the father was out of town. I don't buy it. I don't believe the coaches.

And that's the crux of the issue. Do we believe the coaches or the commissioner? You choose to believe the commissioner, who even you admit is an arrogant moron. While you're certainly entitled to that belief, a rational review of the facts certainly reveals your flawed judgment in this matter.

99 posted on 11/04/2006 8:27:16 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: robertpaulsen

Let's assume, for sake of argument, that you're right: i.e. that the father is telling the truth, and that the coaches DID agree, in the telephone call, to play johnny on every down on defense, then in the last game broke their word. I agree with you that doing nothing would send a message that it's OK to break your word. Question, though: is there something else the father could have done? Could he have waited until the end of the season, then fired the coaches? Could he have removed his son from the team? Was the entire team aware of the consequences, i.e. that the coaches would be fired if they disobeyed dad? Does it change your view if the rest of the team, and the parents, were unaware of this agreement and the consequences?

There's another issue here, too: what happens if the kid gets hurt? Are the coaches still supposed to play him on "every down"? What happens if their offense commits a turnover (fumble, interception), the other team recovers and now is advancing the other way. Are the coaches in trouble because johnny isn't in on the play, given that the offense is now the defense? lol


102 posted on 11/04/2006 8:34:58 AM PST by rudy45
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lol now you have me going lol.

What about when the other team has fourth down, and is in either field goal or punt formation? Is johnny supposed to be playing? Is it defense, or is it "special teams"? What happens if it's a FAKE? Are the coaches in trouble if they kept johnny out, because he's not on special teams? lol


107 posted on 11/04/2006 8:48:28 AM PST by rudy45
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