Posted on 11/03/2006 3:41:29 PM PST by WesternCulture
Nontheless, I consider myself a warm friend of Catholicism.
Among other things, I am very aware that Catholicism has inspired one of the most magnificent achievements of mankind, if not THE most magnificent achievement, namely the Renassaince.
All the same, I think the role of Gustavus Adolphus in European and World history is underestimated - and there's a lot of things to be said in favor of this standpoint.
Furthermore, I honestly think the ECONOMICAL achievements of Gothenburg, Gustavus Adolphus's City, is underestimated throughout Europe.
If the whole of Europe was like Gothenburg, one of the strongest regions in the area of economical performance of the continent, the EU GDP would be something 200% of its present figures.
It gets cold, windy and chilly here sometimes of year (but the summers are often wonderful) and people often complain about how hard they have to work, but believe me, life here is like it ought to be!
Hm. I wasn't aware that Catholicism had been defeated.
Reminds me of that little ditty: Nietzsche: God is dead. God: Nietzsche is dead.
I dated a girl from Gothenburg once. Even wrote her an entire letter in Swedish (with the help of a tourist's translation guide). She said it was quite a hoot.
The good king has a college in the US named after him...Gustavus Adophus College in St. Peter, MN...a good Lutheran school. My son is a proud alumnus.
Yeah, that's cool.
What's even cooler is that Catholicism saves the human race from an eternity in hell and brings joy and meaning to life on earth.
LOL, these threads tiltes between the Catholics and Proetestants are getting more edgy lol
I am curious about something. Is this the tradition that one sees up in areas of the midwest,like chicago etc) that have a special Christmas celebration. It escapes me right now but they do something special. I think it involves Candles
Gustavus Adolphus invented a military code of conduct that is the grandfather of our Uniform Code of Military Justice.
That's great!
Now let's all go out and celebrate by voting for Republican candidates on Tuesday. (Remember, Liberals and Democrats go to the polls on Wednesday.)
"Celebrating the man who defeated Catholicism: 'Gothenburg's King' remembered with cakes and statues
Hm. I wasn't aware that Catholicism had been defeated.
Reminds me of that little ditty: Nietzsche: God is dead. God: Nietzsche is dead.
I dated a girl from Gothenburg once. Even wrote her an entire letter in Swedish (with the help of a tourist's translation guide). She said it was quite a hoot."
To begin with, Catholicism has, of course, not been defeated in the sense "eradicated from the face of the Earth".
Through the outcome of the Thirty Years' War it was once and for all driven away from Northern Europe.
Apart from hindering Russia from reaching the Seven Seas, this is one of the most notable achievements of the "tiny" nation of Sweden.
Whatever the purpose, I admire you for trying to express yourself properly in swedish, fellow FReeper!
Sweden's famous Queen Kristina was a friend of Catholicism, too. Right?
I'm a California native, with a Swedish grandfather. His father Svanskog area, mother Hovmantorp/Lenhovda area. Hovmantorp/Lenhovda people reflected in Moberg's books. And ABBA's opera "Kristina från Duvemåla". Fictional character, based on my great-grandmother's half sister.
Give the Saab company mention, since it is not far from Gothenburg, either.
I'm pleased to find out she's sparked up some interest inthe US. Here in good ol' Sweden sh's immensely popular.
I read somewhere she performed on US TV some time ago and that it was quite a success.
I haven't tried any of her recipies, although I enjoy cooking a lot.
I like her too, especially her spirit and attitude. If all women were like that (instead of being nagging all of the time) things like divorces would be more or less forgotten.
"Sweden's famous Queen Kristina was a friend of Catholicism, too. Right?
I'm a California native, with a Swedish grandfather. His father Svanskog area, mother Hovmantorp/Lenhovda area. Hovmantorp/Lenhovda people reflected in Moberg's books. And ABBA's opera "Kristina från Duvemåla". Fictional character, based on my great-grandmother's half sister.
Give the Saab company mention, since it is not far from Gothenburg, either."
Interesting.
The highly educated, but unfit ruler of Sweden, Queen Christina, daughter of Gustavus Adolphus, was a close friend of Catholicism. This is correct.
She is buried in Rome. That ought to tell you something.
In one way I feel it is a sad thing Europe is divided in two (or three, minding the Greek Orthodox Church), depending on religous traditions.
On the other hand, Catholicism doesn't suite viking/north germanic approaches to life and furthermore, Europeans of today don't hesitate to cooperate because they happen to originate from different religious traditions.
Good thing to find out of many Americans cherish their European roots.
Yes, there is an ocean between us and there are disagreements on several world political issues, but what does that matter when you are a member of a culture that gave birth to:
- Ancient Greece and Rome
- Modern Science
- Industry
- The Enlightment
- The United States Declaration of Independence
- The Declaration of Human Rights
- The Renaissance?
I thought Gothenburg now had really bad slums where rescue workers don't go without police escort. I think Sweden needs a new king to take on a new religion.
Mrs VS
I was trying to impress a beautiful redhead from Sweden.
Catholicism never dies.
Are you sure you aren't confusing Catholicism with The Inspiration for Catholicism?
Yeah, Slums where most people drive better cars than middle class americans.
However, I have to admit that someting like 6% of the swedish population is considered "poor" by UN standards.
In the US...
Get the facts before posting nonsense.
It is quite the extravagant claim, isn't it? The defeat of Catholicism?
Pope Benedict will be very chagrined to hear this news.
I'm quite sure he's not.
I was talking about Muslim immigrants. Is Goteborg not the city where there is a major immigrant crime problem? Or is that Malmo? I lived in Sweden for almost a year as a child and found much to love there. And I have Swedish ancestry. I don't like to hear about it becoming un-Swedish.
Mrs VS
"Pope Benedict will be very chagrined to hear this news."
Forse, Amico.
What the title claims is that Catholicism was defeated once and for all in Northern Europe.
In my humble opinion, This was quite an achievement by a little Viking nation up north in Europe.
If you read my comments on the original article, you'll find out that I honestly respect Catholicism.
Furthermore, the edges of Protestantism and Catholicism sure can coexist. Il Papa recently recieved a SUV manufactured by Volvo here in Gothenburg!
Read more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1657820/posts
Sorry for sounding like a salesman, but the Volvo XC90 IS a MAGNIFICENT vehicle.
- I'm saving money for one (or perhaps I'll buy a smaller Volvo instead, we'll see).
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