SAVAGE NATION LIVE!! Friday, November 03, 2006

[Tarkus2040]

BE HERE, OR BE NOWHERE!

[whatisthetruth]

Were you deliberately trying to get this thread to 200 posts with your asinine postings?

[meanie monster]

lol

[Darkwolf377]

Checkers wrote: So when Weiner says he wants to bring the troops home before completing the mission, how is that not "cutting and running"? Simply put, it's because HE said it that people think it's different. It's like the critic who said a certain play was a work of art; when asked why he believed this he responded that the writer was an artist; therefore, whatever he creates is a work of art. Savage is a prime example of a cult of personality: His followers believe him to be a conservative, so therefore whenever he wants to do something like cut and run, or give money to Brown, or call for respect for animal rights, his followers simply say "He's not a robot or cookie-cutter Republican." Because to try to reconcile his liberal ideas with conservatism is impossible. Which is why so many "conservatives" claim they're libertarians; they're conservatives without embracing the philosophy of conservatism, possibly for selfish interests (selfish not in the insulting sense, but merely because they're putting personal needs and life experience ahead of conservative philosophical concepts) or convenience (for example, they want to have abortion available for their own selves, because they sleep around, so they come up with a justification for abortion even though it has of late become part of what it means to be a conservative). Savage's adherents like his outspokenness, but to admit they only like the vents, the emotional experience, would be like saying they like sex only for the physical pleasure, and not for the possibility of conception and the use of sex as an expression of love. Admitting one likes Savage only because he's a rude, bigoted and angry person would admit to having those same qualities, or valuing them, when it's so much easier to say they find his candor refreshing and that's it. But Al Franken is candid, and they don't like him. Savage is like the Clintons--he's out for himself. But those who bought into his "rebel conservative" pose (and that's all it is) will feel pretty damned stupid if they admit to being hoodwinked. So, like the JFK fans who lauded him for being a family man before the revelations of his personal life came out, Savage fans have to say those things aren't REALLY important--in the case of Kennedy, that honor and respect for one's wife are any of our business; in the case of Savage, that it's not what he believes is 100% true to a conservative philosophy, but that his just TALKING about this stuff is what's important, so his occassional non-conservative ideas--animal rights, pulling out of Iraq--are beside the point. (He also has the very worst aspects of supposed conservatives--his hatred for gays is in direct contradiction to religious conservative claims that they hate the sin but love the sinner.) Savage has taken his conservative fans for a ride, but they've gone along for so long that they can't admit they were had without looking like dupes. So they act like they went along for the ride willingly, and keep changing their excuses for being fans of this very hateful, very ignorant (no matter his constant prattling on about degrees--since when did we give a fig about that?) and very sad little man.

[Checkers]

Great post.

Change the names and reverse the ideologies and you know who you are describing? Bill Clinton's defenders.


It's time for the Weinernauts to come back to Earth.

[Checkers]

"Were you deliberately trying to get this thread to 200 posts with your asinine postings?"

Do you have anything of substance to say?

[Checkers]

"It sure beats my old title, "The Weiner Chronicles" <= lamesville"

Any suggestions for future titles?

[whatisthetruth]

While you were posting your long nonsensical post I did a ceramic profile of you and I must say it turned out just faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabulous. Darkwolf Troll

[whatisthetruth]

Any suggestions for future titles?

How bout 'Checkers goes to Disneyland'.

[Checkers]

I get the feeling old "whatisthetruth" listens to the Weiner a lot.

[whatisthetruth]

I get the feeling "Checkers" needs to GET A LIFE!

[Darkwolf377]

It figures a Weiner fan would sculpt a naked little man.

Enjoy the showtunes.

[Checkers]

Yeah.

What is up with that?

[TBP]

IOW, you believe what you want to believe regardless.

[Darkwolf377]

Yeah. What is up with that?

Repressed desires and transferrence. Textbook cases, all of em.

[Checkers]

"How many times does he have to say that he wants you to vote Republican -- or at lest against the Democrats -- before you stop spreading the idea that he doesn't?"


It would take an infinite number of times because Weiner's actions speak louder:

-Weiner wants you to vote Democrat to the tune of $5600.

-Weiner gives free air time to the head of the DSCC; how much is that worth?

-Weiner takes the Democrat line on Iraq(cut and run)

-Weiner takes the Democrat line on raising the minimum wage

I could go on, but you get the point.

[Checkers]

"Repressed desires and transferrence. Textbook cases, all of em."

Speaking of "Repressed desires and transferrence", what do you make of the title of a Mike Weiner book?

---The Enemy Within---

Pretty much sums up the herbalist...

[TBP]

-Weiner wants you to vote Democrat to the tune of $5600.

To one candidate. That doesn't mean he wants you to vote Democrat overall.

-Weiner gives free air time to the head of the DSCC; how much is that worth?

Schumer, whom he mocks as "Shoe-mah" most of the time, was on twice to talk about the prot deal, about which they happened to agree. Sean give s fre air time to Liebermnan and Ford and other Democrat candidates.

-Weiner takes the Democrat line on Iraq(cut and run)

This is an untruth that the anti-Svage crowd is spreading. What he has said is that if we're not going to pursue a winning strategy, tehn we should leave. One may or may not agree with that, but it's a worthwhile point. Many conservatives said the same thing about Vietnam, either win or get out, but don't just keep fighting endlessly for a staelmate. He has outlined ideas to change our strategy to win the war. Taht's hardly cut-and-run.

You and your fellow Savage-haters know this.

-Weiner takes the Democrat line on raising the minimum wage

While I have never personally heard him call for increasing the minimum wage, if he said that, he is wrong. Butit's one issue. If someone is right on 90 percent of what he says and wrong on 10 percent of it, do you call that person a liberal? Do you decide that he's on the other side?

[whatisthetruth]

Repressed desires and transferrence. Textbook cases, all of em.

Hey Darktroll 377 you sure know a lot about homosexuality. Is that because it hits close to home? Try ex-gay ministries, we can do little for your kind here on the Savage thread or on Free Republic. Good luck!

[whatisthetruth]

It figures a Weiner fan would sculpt a naked little man.

Ha ha ha! This is not a man, it's you troll! on one of your better days!

Darktroll 377

[whatisthetruth]

I'm trying Rock really I am but you know I'm a bleeding heart when it comes to feeding the animals. Tee Hee Hee!