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To: SirLinksalot

So we are too complex to have not had a creator, but God himself is not? Who created God, who is more complex than we?


18 posted on 11/03/2006 2:12:42 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Who created God ?

If God is understood as Eternal, everlasting, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Perfect, one who always was and always will be, then this is like asking the question ---

Who created the one who is Eternal, Everlasting, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Perfect, one who always was and always will be.
20 posted on 11/03/2006 2:15:55 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Who created God,

Once you recognize that there is a limit to the human mind and that question is impossible to answer you stop banging your head on it. What came before the Big Bang?

Materialism fails because it can't address those questions. The recognition that there is a power not bound by the laws of nature is the only rational way of dealing with them.

21 posted on 11/03/2006 2:19:36 PM PST by Tribune7 (Go Swann Go Santorum)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
So we are too complex to have not had a creator, but God himself is not? Who created God, who is more complex than we?

Dunno but it's a pretty good bet that it wasn't RM/NS.

41 posted on 11/03/2006 4:46:58 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Jhengis Johnny was against an apology before he was for it, sort of.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Who created God, who is more complex than we?

So if some being created God, who created that being? And who created the one that created God? And who created the one who created, the one who created, the one who created,....? And so on ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

What's your point? And just how far back do you want to take that agrument?

42 posted on 11/03/2006 7:48:22 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
So we are too complex to have not had a creator, but God himself is not? Who created God, who is more complex than we?

If all of space-time came into creation via the Big Bang, then it would seem the initiator of the Big Bang (i.e., God) would exist prior to and independent of the dimension of time... the dimension of cause and effect. That would seem to fit with the concept that God is an uncaused being.

But now we're getting into things a bit deep for the human mind...

"Why is there something rather than nothing?" - Leibniz

51 posted on 11/03/2006 8:47:54 PM PST by apologist
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Dear GraniteStateConservative,

Although I don't have the time or the inclination to expand on this, typically philosophy (and Christian theology) identify God as entirely simple.


sitetest


63 posted on 11/04/2006 8:18:46 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Who created God, who is more complex than we?

How long does it take to create time?
What did matter weigh before it existed?
How much space is required to create all dimensions?

How do these questions differ from the question that you ask if everything must be compared to the physical? Or are you stating that either everything physical ultimately needs a creator / or nothing physical ultimately needs a creator?

If nothing physical ultimately needs a creator than I should expect answers to these questions from – well, ultimately mindless causes…

71 posted on 11/04/2006 1:31:41 PM PST by Heartlander (My view from the cheap seats ;)
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