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U.S. officials demand IAF cease overflights in Lebanese airspace
www.haaretz.com ^ | 18:53 03/11/2006 | Aluf Benn

Posted on 11/03/2006 12:04:22 PM PST by Esther Ruth

Last update - 18:53 03/11/2006

U.S. officials demand IAF cease overflights in Lebanese airspace

By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service

Two Bush administration officials demanded that Israel Air Force overflights of Lebanon be halted, saying that such flights undermine the standing of Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora.

The two U.S. diplomats, David Welch and Elliott Abrams, held short meetings Thursday with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni.

The meeting with Olmert was dedicated to preparations for his visit to the United States and his meeting with President George W. Bush in 10 days' time.

A government source said that the two envoys did not put forth any new diplomatic initiative on behalf of the Bush administration.

Olmert also met Thursday with visiting U.S. Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte, who is in Israel as the guest of Mossad chief Meir Dagan. Negroponte's talks with Israeli intelligence officials are focusing on Iran and its nuclear program, a subject that will also preoccupy Bush and Olmert during their meeting in Washington.

The talks with Welch and Abrams, in contrast, focused on the standing of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas. The U.S. diplomats said that Abbas is "exhibiting weakness," and the main question is whether it is possible to strengthen him - and if so, how.

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1 posted on 11/03/2006 12:04:23 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth

excerpts...

On Wednesday, the security cabinet authorized a plan put forward by the American security coordinator in the territories, General Keith Dayton, to bolster Palestinian security forces loyal to Abbas in the Gaza Strip.

However, this authorization was only in principle, and Israel has yet to give a green light for either the delivery of additional arms to Abbas or the entry into Gaza of the Badr Brigade, a Palestine Liberation Organization force currently stationed in Jordan.

The question of how to bolster Abbas was also at the center of a meeting of Quartet representatives in London last week. The participants - representing the U.S., European Union, Russia and the UN - discussed the implementation of three existing accords: a November 2005 agreement on the Gaza border crossings, the Sharm al-Sheikh understandings of February 2005, and the road map peace plan.

They agreed that Israel should be asked to allow expanded operations at the Rafah and Karni crossings into Gaza, and also to enable free passage between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Israel will also be asked to remove the checkpoints that impede the free flow of traffic in the West Bank.

Meanwhile, the British government is promoting a plan to bypass Hamas and strengthen the PA by bolstering four institutions directly answerable to Abbas: the border crossings authority, the monetary authority, the presidential guard and the legal system. Norway, for its part, is calling a conference of PA donor countries.


2 posted on 11/03/2006 12:05:56 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth

Of course they undermine the prime minister, they give legitimacy to hezbollah by making israel seem as the "bad guy" to the lebanese people. I mean when i went to school there they used to scare us with sonic booms virtually every day, whats the point really?


3 posted on 11/03/2006 12:06:28 PM PST by maronite
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To: Esther Ruth

The Israelis should tell the US officials to STFU and let them do what they have to do.


4 posted on 11/03/2006 12:08:19 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Esther Ruth

Give me a break... unbelievable. Let me go check on this...


5 posted on 11/03/2006 12:12:16 PM PST by AliVeritas (Mr. Webb, who is Melissa Harrington, Dorothy Tran and Joe Cato?)
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To: sofaman

ping


6 posted on 11/03/2006 12:12:36 PM PST by AliVeritas (Mr. Webb, who is Melissa Harrington, Dorothy Tran and Joe Cato?)
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To: maronite

I would think that seeing foreigners bringing all kinds of weaponery into the country to wage war on a neighbor, making my children a shield, and taking over my govt. would be more frightning than a few sonic booms.


7 posted on 11/03/2006 12:16:10 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: NY Attitude

Thank you... yet no one says a thing when they store weapons and shoot out of the mosques... this is BS.

How many churches have they burned and Christians (not to mention those of their own faith), have they killed.

They can kiss my *ss, they're lucky I wasn't flying in the jet. Meanwhile the useless, terrorist coddling UNIFIL at this moment sits back while they move arms in to them.

Please.


8 posted on 11/03/2006 12:18:22 PM PST by AliVeritas (Mr. Webb, who is Melissa Harrington, Dorothy Tran and Joe Cato?)
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To: Esther Ruth
Hmmm.

Let's see. Today's the 3rd. I'll be reconsidering. Apparently, our Party would like to narrow its constituency to certain religious people who are anti-Israel.

Disciples of Christ to Israel: Drop dead
http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-religion/1458942/posts

U.S. Presbyterians target five firms with Israel links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458765/posts

The Church Stares Into the Abyss (The dhimmitude of the Church of England)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435084/posts

(Anti-Semitic) Anglican group urges Israel sanctions
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430566/posts

Anglicans Call for Sanction on Investment in Israel to Uphold Justice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430772/posts

THE VATICAN AND THE STANDOFF AT THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp515.htm

Two United Methodist gatherings urge selective divestment from Israel (official anti-Israel United Methodist Website)
http://www.umc.org/site/c.gjJTJbMUIuE/b.886089/k.A105/Two_United_Methodist_gatherings_urge_selective_divestment_from_Israel.htm

world council of churches (WCC)
church & ecumenical relations
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/what/ecumenical/index-e.html
"Among those churches which are not members of the WCC, the most notable is the Roman Catholic Church (RCC). Since 1965 a Joint Working Group (JWG), co-sponsored by the WCC and the RCC, has met regularly to discuss issues of common interest and promote cooperation. The group meets annually. One of the church and ecumenical relations staff members serves as co-secretary for the JWG and helps to coordinate contact between the Council and the dicasteries of the Vatican through the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. [And] . . . Though the Roman Catholic Church is not a member of the WCC, it is a full member of the Faith & Order Commission. The RCC also serves the team on Mission & Evangelism in a consultative capacity."

If the Republican Party would rather have them than us, it can. But it won't have both.

Most Americans Support Right of Jews to Live and Build in Judea-Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927783/posts
June 10, 2003
"By a margin of nearly five to one, Americans oppose the Bush administration's demand to halt all further Jewish construction in Judea-Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza . . . The poll, carried out by John McLaughlin & Associates, surveyed a scientific sample of 1,000 American adults on May 21, 2003.
9 posted on 11/03/2006 12:19:12 PM PST by familyop (http://www.noachidechassid.com/news.php)
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To: AliVeritas
The PC game that the US State Department is playing with the Israelis is a stupid one. We should have allowed the Israeli forces to do what they had to do.This thing is going to get larger as time goes on. We know that syria, iran and others are arming hamas, hezollah and all of the other militant groups. It is time for the State Department to stay out of Israels right to defend itself by any means necessary.
10 posted on 11/03/2006 12:24:37 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude
The State Department is a problem. It may be their job to talk nice and use "diplomacy", but it's undermining a real war-effort and our allies. During wartime (and not only then) we need a bunch of John Boltons in the State Dep.
11 posted on 11/03/2006 12:27:59 PM PST by SolidWood
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To: Esther Ruth

Lebanese leaders call for unity [All of them support the terrorists. ...always have.]
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1668991/posts

See "Maronite."


13 posted on 11/03/2006 12:33:36 PM PST by familyop (http://www.noachidechassid.com/news.php)
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To: SJackson; Alouette

Ping?


14 posted on 11/03/2006 12:34:05 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: familyop

But it won't have both
***
Right, no one can serve two masters.
The God of Israel or the world.


15 posted on 11/03/2006 12:36:27 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth

"such flights undermine the standing of Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora"

but the presence of Hezbully not?


16 posted on 11/03/2006 12:40:21 PM PST by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: EllenZ

Do we need an intermediary to help up with our problems? To the best that my memory serves me, we have not asked any other country to intervene in our affairs/problems with Mexico.


17 posted on 11/03/2006 12:40:40 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]

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Makes sense to me, this will make it easier for Hizbollah to rearm. And since Abbas is "exhibiting weakness," and the main question is whether it is possible to strengthen him - and if so, how., we're rearming his terrorists. Prisoners, they ain't got no prisoners, which is why their status isn't brought up.

We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or no rest. And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism . Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.

A fine political speach, but our enemies know it's application is selective.

18 posted on 11/03/2006 12:41:19 PM PST by SJackson ( There is no threat. Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands. John Kerry)
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To: Esther Ruth
Nice ties, looks like they had a good lunch. Must be fun to hang with terrorists, something to tell the grandkids about.


PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas meeting U.S. Assistant Secretary of State David Welch at his office in the West Bank town of Ramallah on Thursday. (AP)

19 posted on 11/03/2006 12:43:34 PM PST by SJackson ( There is no threat. Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands. John Kerry)
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