Posted on 11/02/2006 4:52:59 PM PST by jamese777
The Rev. Ted Haggard resigned as president of the influential National Association of Evangelicals on Thursday after being accused of having a sexual affair with a gay man.
Haggard also stepped down as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church pending an investigation by a church panel, saying he could "not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations."
"I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity," Haggard said in a written statement. "I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance."
Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."
Mike Jones, 49, of Denver told the AP that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM radio in Denver.
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"Look at the Duke lacrosse rape accusations"
Exactly.
Being "condemned" by that website is a badge of honor.
In fairness, it still may not be. You can only trust press reports so much.
My pastor had to resign due to an "indiscretion". We still love him and supported his 2-year rehabilitation. However, having a new preacher was the healthy thing to do.
I think we shouldn't be the judge and jury until we know the truth. The accuser FAILED a lie-detector test. I suspect the drug portion of the claims are true. The accuser is bent on an agenda to pass legal homosexual marriage. If he was supplying TH with drugs, he had enough evidence to make the affair seem plausible, and to rally support for his cause by discrediting the biggest naysayer.
"But if he stayed on, how could the investigation be seen as fair?"
Simple...that's why they use independent counsels and special prosecutors in the public sector to conduct the investigations.
Did Ronald Reagan resign during Iran-Contra? Did George H.W. Bush resign during the Savings and Loan scandal? Did Bill Clinton resign during Whitewater?
Here are the full texts of Haggard's voicemails. Why isn't Jones being investigated for dealing meth? Sounds to me like Jones was his dealer, not his gay lover. In the first message, Haggard says he needs to get Jones' address...yet Jones stated that they conducted their 3 year affair at his residence.
So Rev Haggard got massage but no sex, scored meth but didn't use it. I don't think I need to point out who this reminds us of.
At this point, my gut tells me that Rev Haggard has not yet arrived at his last fall-back position.
I agree that the idea of global warming must be opposed (not just for opposition's sake, but with facts, as I'm sure you agree). I'm not sure that "rotting in hell" is a proper consequence for pushing pseudo-science on others. Now, having homosexual affairs and snorting meth? That might qualify.
Even if all he did was what he admitted to, he needed to step down. I'm glad he's done so.
I agree with you. I'm glad he stepped down as it was the right thing to do. It just breaks my heart all the pain he has caused his children, wife and congregation, and for what? They have my prayers (Ted too).
Me too. He has also sullied the name of Christ. I wonder if he's even thought about that.
This kind of case, IMO, makes a very good point in favor of having gayness wired in. Here's a guy with incredibly powerful incentives to NOT be gay, yet he can't help himself. Why a small percentage of men prefer another man rather than a female as a sexual partner is, again IMO, NOT a choice. Either a guy loves T&A or doesn't--who REALLY thinks it's a matter of internal discussion?
That said, I still have a problem with any "flamin, in your face" attitude" the gay lib has..
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To: jamese777
This kind of case, IMO, makes a very good point in favor of having gayness wired in. Here's a guy with incredibly powerful incentives to NOT be gay, yet he can't help himself. Why a small percentage of men prefer another man rather than a female as a sexual partner is, again IMO, NOT a choice. Either a guy loves T&A or doesn't--who REALLY thinks it's a matter of internal discussion?
Haggard obviously "swings both ways." He was "T and A" enough to have five kids with his wife and stay married to her for 28 years. Some people are bisexual.
Nope--don't buy it. He compromised so he could walk in the straight world and attend to his career, but this guy doesn't fantasize about Jessica Simpson like hetero guy does. If his urges were evenly spread out for men and women he would have been satisfied with his wife--or at least other women. The evidence is that people who call themselves "bisexual" are really gays who are willing to compromise at times.
"Nope--don't buy it. He compromised so he could walk in the straight world and attend to his career, but this guy doesn't fantasize about Jessica Simpson like hetero guy does. If his urges were evenly spread out for men and women he would have been satisfied with his wife--or at least other women. The evidence is that people who call themselves "bisexual" are really gays who are willing to compromise at times."
I buy the Kinsey scale: from zero to six moving from totally heterosexual to totally homosexual in terms of both sexual behavior and sexual fantasy. If the guy stayed married for 28 years and produced five kids that's more than "compromising."
We will have to agree to disagree.
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