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Row Over Australian Muslims Intensifies
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-1-2006 | Nick Squires

Posted on 10/31/2006 6:41:29 PM PST by blam

Row over Australian Muslims intensifies

By Nick Squires in Sydney
Last Updated: 12:28pm GMT 31/10/2006

A bitter row over the attitude among Muslims towards women in Australia intensified today when a senior Islamic cleric complained that Muslim men convicted of rape received much heavier penalties than white offenders.

Sheik Mohammed Omran said Muslims found guilty of rape were dealt with more harshly than other sex offenders such as members of motorcycle gangs or “football stars”.

He appeared to be referring to the gang rape of several white Australian girls by a group of young Muslim men in 2000.

One of the men, the ringleader Bilal Skaf, received a 55-year jail term - the longest sentence for rape ever handed down in Australia. It was later reduced on appeal.

The gang rapes sparked public outrage. The offenders, mostly of Lebanese background, preyed on white teenage women, calling them “Aussie pigs” and telling them they would be raped “Leb-style”.

One 18-year-old victim was raped by 14 different men during a six-hour ordeal, while another was stripped, staked out on the ground and surrounded by men who “behaved much like wild animals treat prey they have just killed,” in the words of a judge.

“They make a big fuss about these kids because one of them, his name is Mohamed,” said Sheikh Omran, from Melbourne, in a sermon. “Even if you kill someone, you don’t go for 60 years.”

Muslim attitudes towards women are under intense scrutiny after Australia most prominent Muslim cleric described immodestly dressed women as “uncovered meat” who invited rape.

Sheikh Taj Aldin al-Hilali, 65, collapsed while waiting to meet a delegation of Muslim leaders to discuss his future on Monday. He remains in hospital today.

He said he was seeking “indefinite leave” from his duties at Lakemba mosque in Sydney. Senior Muslims insisted, however, that he had not been sacked and would not resign.

The Egyptian-born cleric has a history of heart trouble and asthma.

The prime minister, John Howard, called for Australia’s 300,000-strong Muslims to distance themselves from the Sheikh Hilali’s inflammatory remarks. Many young Muslims have condemned his outburst and others want to see him replaced by a national board of imams.


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KEYWORDS: australia; gangs; howard; john; muslims; row
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1 posted on 10/31/2006 6:41:31 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
If you want to live in a free society you cannot allow muslims.
2 posted on 10/31/2006 6:46:41 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: blam
"Sheik Mohammed Omran said Muslims found guilty of rape were dealt with more harshly than other sex offenders such as members of motorcycle gangs or “football stars”."

So what's your point Sheik? Do you think white sex offenders should be dealt with more harshly? If so, I agree.

(sound of crickets chirping)
3 posted on 10/31/2006 6:48:51 PM PST by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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To: blam; Aussie Dasher; All

Hey AD look like Aussie Muslums are saying now Aussie cops are profiling them BIG DEAL LOL!


4 posted on 10/31/2006 6:49:19 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: blam

#1 tactic of ROP.

Culture of perpetual victimhood.


5 posted on 10/31/2006 6:56:43 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: blam

Maybe they shouldn't teach the little Muslim children in madrassahs that they should gang rape women when they grow up.

That's pretty much what Muhammed promised his followers: plenty of looting, raping, enslaving, and killing, enough to satisfy any cowardly bully.


6 posted on 10/31/2006 6:59:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: outdriving

He believes it's always the woman's fault...Men can't help themselves, evidently, in this world view.


7 posted on 10/31/2006 7:02:12 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Cicero
"That's pretty much what Muhammed promised his followers: plenty of looting, raping, enslaving, and killing, enough to satisfy any cowardly bully."

Yup, and they get to abuse 72 virgins in the after life too.

8 posted on 10/31/2006 7:12:39 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The offenders, mostly of Lebanese background, preyed on white teenage women, calling them “Aussie pigs” and telling them they would be raped “Leb-style”.

One 18-year-old victim was raped by 14 different men during a six-hour ordeal, while another was stripped, staked out on the ground and surrounded by men who “behaved much like wild animals treat prey they have just killed,”

One of the men, the ringleader Bilal Skaf, received a 55-year jail term

55 years sounds about right to me.

If they had done this in the US the Aussie Pigs comment might get them a Hate Crime charge added.

9 posted on 10/31/2006 7:14:32 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: kinoxi

Fundamentalist Muslims won't thrive in a free society, they will only be marginal shadows. The children however will rebel and join those breathing the air of Western ideas and freedom.....or else they'll end up in therapy for the rest of their lives delaing with sexual/emotional issues.


10 posted on 10/31/2006 7:17:07 PM PST by zarf
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Post #2 "If you want to live in a free society you cannot allow muslims."

Islam is the issue.
11 posted on 10/31/2006 7:20:58 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: blam

Hey Omran, thanks for your sincere concern for the safety of the women of Australia, not to mention female tourists. It's gratifying that your concern about sexual predators being punished harshly across the board rather than playing the tired old "Muslim men are the real victims and it's not fair" game.

/sarc

(written while wearing a t-shirt & some cute jeans, something Omran can't deal with.)


12 posted on 10/31/2006 7:26:53 PM PST by MonicaG (Praying for our troops, leadership, Israel & IDF. Thanks to our veterans & their families.)
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"Fundamentalist Muslims won't thrive in a free society, they will only be marginal shadows. The children however will rebel and join those breathing the air of Western ideas and freedom.....or else they'll end up in therapy for the rest of their lives dealing with sexual/emotional issues."

So, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, you believe that Muslims will reject their religion, culture, and upbringing to embrace Western cultural norms. Hmmm...

Is there something we should be doing to encourage this, or is our culture so strong, we have nothing to worry about? Or do we have to build more prisons and mental institutions for all the "or else" you mentioned?
13 posted on 10/31/2006 7:39:33 PM PST by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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To: Pontiac

Death by slow strangulation sounds about right to me!


14 posted on 10/31/2006 7:43:15 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: zarf; All
Read Mark Steyn: America Alone; The End of the World as We Know It.

Your perspective re: "The Religion of Peace" will change, I guarandamntee it!

15 posted on 10/31/2006 7:45:49 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: blam

If it was the Rape Sheik's daughter who had been gang-raped, he would demand nothing less than death for the perps. And then he would kill his daughter for bringing shame on the family.


16 posted on 10/31/2006 7:54:48 PM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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"If they had done this in the US the Aussie Pigs comment might get them a Hate Crime charge added."

If they'd done this in Texas, they might have begged to be jailed...

17 posted on 10/31/2006 8:30:12 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Taxman
Death by slow strangulation sounds about right to me!

That might be considered Cruel.

Perhaps death by fire ants would be more appropriate.

18 posted on 10/31/2006 8:30:46 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: zarf
"The children however will rebel and join those breathing the air of Western ideas and freedom.....or else they'll end up in therapy for the rest of their lives delaing with sexual/emotional issues."

Nope. Thet turn into tomorrows killers, ticking time bombs waiting to go off. But oh how nice and pleasant they are until that days comes... Islam breeds nothing but violence. If you want to start making an attempt at stopping this, then we have to do what Turkey does, monitor and control every single sermon preached in the mosks. It doesn't stop Islamic violence, but slows it down, drives it underground. Ban the Koran and burn every mosk is the better solution, and the one the world must take when it decides enough is enough. Otherwise, this Islamic uprizing, the rise of the persian empire the bible speaks of in end times, is the beginning of the end for this world.

19 posted on 10/31/2006 8:36:03 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Redbob
If they'd done this in Texas, they might have begged to be jailed...

Or maybe the poor sots would have accidentally got in the way of a Texas Long Horn stampede.

20 posted on 10/31/2006 8:36:13 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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