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Hevesi Trial? Senate May Look to a 1913 Impeachment
NY Times ^ | October 30, 2006 | SAM ROBERTS

Posted on 10/30/2006 11:59:47 AM PST by neverdem

If Gov. George E. Pataki seems less than certain about what to do with Comptroller Alan G. Hevesi, there is a good reason: no statewide elected official has been removed from office since Gov. William Sulzer in 1913, and that case remains debatable to this day.

The accusations that may deliver Mr. Hevesi to the Legislature’s rusty gates of justice center on findings of the State Ethics Commission that he broke the law by using state employees to chauffeur his ailing wife. He has apologized for not reimbursing the state promptly. The Ethics Commission also said that the amount he eventually paid — $82,689 — may not have been sufficient.

Governor Sulzer was accused of what might be considered a technicality, but which a special court concluded amounted to misappropriation of campaign funds.

If Mr. Hevesi is tried by the Senate, it will not be surprising if he invokes a defense similar to the one advanced by Mr. Sulzer’s lawyer, D. Cady Herrick: that the colleagues sitting in judgment, in the very Legislature where Mr. Hevesi, like Mr. Sulzer, once served, might be aware of his “carelessness in money matters” and his “egotism” but that “none of you in the past has ever regarded him as a dishonest man, a perjurer, or a thief — and that is what these charges come down to.”

In Governor Sulzer’s case, what the charges came down to — in addition, apparently, to arrogance and greed — was a legal coup by Charles F. Murphy, the Tammany Hall leader whom Mr. Sulzer, a fellow Democrat, had defied. Mr. Sulzer not only campaigned for political reform and against corruption — that might have been excusable — but also unforgivably pursued his agenda once he got elected in 1912 .

Mr. Sulzer refused to name Mr...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alanghevesi; hevesi; impeachment
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New York State, via Associated Press
William Sulzer, the only New York State governor to be impeached and removed from office.
1 posted on 10/30/2006 11:59:50 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

"In Governor Sulzer’s case, what the charges came down to — in addition, apparently, to arrogance and greed — was a legal coup by Charles F. Murphy, the Tammany Hall leader whom Mr. Sulzer, a fellow Democrat, had defied. Mr. Sulzer not only campaigned for political reform and against corruption — that might have been excusable — but also unforgivably pursued his agenda once he got elected in 1912."


Since it's Tammany Hall, Sulzer must've been wrongly impeached and in reality a good guy.


2 posted on 10/30/2006 12:02:19 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
HEVESI SMOOCHES UP POL PAL (Not his wife)

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

P.S. Surprise, surprise, the NY Post apparently just announced according to WABC-AM radio that it endorsed the beast saying Spencer was not credible, as if the beast is.

3 posted on 10/30/2006 12:10:18 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

NY Post endorsed the beast? What the heck?


4 posted on 10/30/2006 12:12:21 PM PST by tioga
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To: neverdem

NY politics is always such a mess - no wonder Hillary decided to run here. She knew a sucker state when she saw it.


5 posted on 10/30/2006 12:12:26 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: neverdem
Hevesi is a smoke screen...

He is the least important (the most benign) of the Democrat candidates running in NY this November. The slime on the left from Spitzer to Cuomo makes Hevesi look like a Reagan Republican.....

We are doomed in NY...get out before its too late

6 posted on 10/30/2006 12:21:04 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: tioga
NY Post endorsed the beast? What the heck?

It's in today's paper. They also endorsed Spitzer. Yuck!
7 posted on 10/30/2006 12:28:52 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: neverdem

The New York Post endorsed Clinton for 12 years, saying she shouldn't run for President.


8 posted on 10/30/2006 12:29:51 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

the putz, spitzer endorsed as well? what is the nypost thinking?


9 posted on 10/30/2006 12:31:06 PM PST by tioga
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To: tioga
the putz, spitzer endorsed as well? what is the nypost thinking?

That Spitzer and Hillary! are going to win, and they best not get on the wrong side of she who must be obeyed or Darth Spitzer. Darth Spitzer in particular is known to go after those who oppose him politically - and ONLY those who oppose him politically.
10 posted on 10/30/2006 12:36:23 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: tioga; conservative in nyc; All
the putz, spitzer endorsed as well? what is the nypost thinking?

CLINTON: 12 MORE YEARS

SPITZER FOR GOVERNOR

IMHO, the NY Post has the editorial integrity of the Olde Gray Whore.

11 posted on 10/30/2006 12:43:36 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: tioga
what is the nypost thinking?

They're not (thinking, that is) that is the problem........

Spitzer is ___________(fill in the blank)

12 posted on 10/30/2006 12:44:46 PM PST by Gabz
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To: conservative in nyc

The putz as in putzhead was also endorsed by the NY Post in 2004. With their ranting about gun control, I don't care for the Post much anymore. It's become a lot like the British tabloids. I like the NY Sun best. It's too bad the Sun doesn't have the resources of the Slimes.


13 posted on 10/30/2006 12:52:48 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
Callaghan was greeting commuters in Grand Central this morning...I shook his hand to show my support. He just may win this.

The Post endorsement thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1728445/posts?page=17#17
14 posted on 10/30/2006 12:56:28 PM PST by Miss Didi
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To: areafiftyone
NY politics is always such a mess - no wonder Hillary decided to run here. She knew a sucker state when she saw it.

What does that mean for those like me who were born here, bad karma? I can't believe all of the utter idiocy, whether it's NYC or Albany.

15 posted on 10/30/2006 1:02:37 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I was born here too. Just an angry response from me for my state. I hate seeing such an easy win for Hillary again! Just frustration.


16 posted on 10/30/2006 1:06:00 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Miss Didi

Thanks for the link. I wonder what Callaghan thinks about the Post's endorsement. I've become so disappointed with the supposedly conservative NY Post.


17 posted on 10/30/2006 1:07:08 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: areafiftyone

I agree with you - I share that frustration. Nevertheless, my vote will be with Spencer, at least I can lay my head down on the pillow at night with a clear conscience. NYS has been and is doomed! Too bad.


18 posted on 10/30/2006 1:18:14 PM PST by nuclady
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To: nuclady

Oh definitely. I will vote for Spencer.


19 posted on 10/30/2006 1:21:11 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping.


20 posted on 10/30/2006 1:26:48 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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