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Holy war against pride parade [Gays vs Religious Jews in Israel]
YNet (Lately they have become "GAYNet") ^ | Oct. 29, 2006 | Neta Sela

Posted on 10/29/2006 7:59:45 PM PST by Alouette

Haredim promise violence if parade takes place, tell J'lem police chief 'will not give up, dialogue or negotiate'

Haredim keep threatening to strike the gay parade scheduled to take place in Jerusalem in two weeks. Most recently, Jerusalem Police Chief Maj. Gen. Ilan Franko met Sunday with Haredi leader Yitzhak Tuvia Weiss.

Franko asked to learn about the stance of Haredi rabbis who declared their intent of a 'Million Man Protest' against the parade. Police did not release details of the meeting.

A source close to the rabbi said that Weiss told Franko that he cannot promise the police chief that there won't be Haredi violence at the march.

"The rabbi declared there'd be a war over this, that we couldn't stay silent about it. We cannot give up or compromise about this," the source said.

Even an offer of compromise, that the parade be moved further from the center of the city, was rejected out of hand by the Haredim. Haredi representatives told the police chief that they intend to go "all the way" on the issue.

The Kol-Haredi telephone hotline, which supplies news updates from the Haredi sector, reported the meeting: "The meeting took place at the (spiritual leader's) house…for over half an hour. The police chief arrived to see just how serious Haredi leaders are about this march."

"Do they intend only to protest against the abomination, as is required, or do they intend to rally without restraint and with full devotion?" queried the broadcast.

"The spiritual leader was clear. We will not give up. We will not come to any dialogue or negotiation. We’re talking about our souls and our obligations to oppose such things and erase this abomination from the holy city, Jerusalem," it answered.

Kol-Haredi further reported that Franko had shown the Haredim the intended parade route, in the hopes of convincing them to stay away from areas where it would run. In response, the rabbi responded, "We're going to war on this issue."

"Not only in Jerusalem, but all over Israel, in Beit Shemesh, Ashdod and 15 junctions that will be hermetically sealed on Friday, during the abomination parade in Jerusalem," he elaborated.

According to the hotline, "we understand that Franko has the power to cancel the parade if he feels that there is a danger to human life. This is what we are trying to make him understand – there is a danger and there will be a holy war on this issue."

'Take a stick and hit them'

The Haredi counter-march is set to take place on Hillel Street, where the march is set to begin. One plan that came up in Haredi forums is to infiltrate the march with some fifty men who "don't look Haredi…who will 'blast' the parade from the inside," said a source close to Rabbi Weiss.

"He said every cop seen along the way should be beaten. After all, the police will try and stop us…so we should be prepared and bring sticks to hit them," he stated, adding "a direct order hasn't been issued, but everyone knows."

The Haredis will most likely be joined in their protests by religious group Agudat Israel. Despite pushing ninety, movement leader Menachem Porush is still active in advancing a counter-march to the rally.

"We haven't yet decided what to do, but we can't, without a doubt, allow such an abomination to go by as part of the daily agenda in Jerusalem," Porush told Ynet. His goal, he said, was to "take away their right to march."

In response, the Open House said "it should be noted that the march will not go through or next to residential neighborhoods, Haredi or otherwise."

"The unfortunately extremist attack-and-bargain strategy will not deter us," they insisted.

"The last few days have proven that we're not just fighting for the rights of the gay community in Jerusalem, but rather for anyone who believes in liberty and human rights. We call on the community at large to join us in our struggle."

Efrat Weiss contributed to the report


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaypride; homosexualagenda; idolators; jerusalem; judaism; mithraists; pagans; romans
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1 posted on 10/29/2006 7:59:47 PM PST by Alouette
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; Alexander Rubin; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

2 posted on 10/29/2006 8:00:12 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 39-43)
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To: Alouette

There should be outrage, violence, and pure mayhem in Jerusalem - against the gays. The very idea is an insult. We can't tolerate perversion. They can be gay if they want to, but not in the streets of Jerusalem.


3 posted on 10/29/2006 8:04:35 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Alouette
There should be no compromise with evil. If Jews today had the gumption of their Maccabean ancestors, all the pagans in Israel would be put to the sword and the name of God would be feared throughout the Land.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 10/29/2006 8:06:36 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Alouette

Haredim ping. Go get 'em, boy!


5 posted on 10/29/2006 8:06:42 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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To: Alouette

This will only help the terrorists cause. They will say, "See, these people are promoting sexual immorality. Do you want them to spread this abomination to the rest of the Middle East?. This proves that they are of Satan. We must rededicate ourselves to wipe Israel off the map and stop this abomination from spreading to our countries."

This will fan the flames of hatred of Israel among the Islamic and Arab nations.


6 posted on 10/29/2006 8:13:24 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2 (This world is not my home, I'm justa passin' thru!!)
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To: Alouette

You know what would be a hoot? Maybe Israel could let the religion of peace come into the country for that one day.


7 posted on 10/29/2006 8:14:32 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Alouette

bump with no comment.


8 posted on 10/29/2006 8:16:16 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: goldstategop
There should be no compromise with evil. If Jews today had the gumption of their Maccabean ancestors, all the pagans in Israel would be put to the sword and the name of God would be feared throughout the Land.

By "pagan" I don't suppose you would include those heretical Christians, would you. Your "Islam...by the sword..." quote is exquisitely appropriate for you, you seem to have the mind-set of a first-rate Taliban.

For the record, I don't think that flamers should be parading in the streets of Jerusalem, but I believe that there are less drastic ways of preventing that.

9 posted on 10/29/2006 8:17:55 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: AD from SpringBay
"You know what would be a hoot? Maybe Israel could let the religion of peace come into the country for that one day."

Looking at the first few comments, I can't tell the difference, a violent religious fanatic is a violent religious fanatic.
10 posted on 10/29/2006 8:18:22 PM PST by ndt
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To: Iam1ru1-2

You're probably right, but that in and of itself isn't a good enough reason. The arabs are savage primitives who will hate everybody else for whatever reason they can use to justify their psychosis. If we begin making domestic policy decisions based on what the depraved neanderthals want, we've already lost (by we, I mean the US and Israel).


11 posted on 10/29/2006 8:20:42 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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Great- as if Israel didn't have enough to worry about fighting the terrorists- now they gotta fight the homosexuals too? Israel has been very tolorant to homosexuals and now the snivelling whelp homos are turning on them? Israel should kick them out and ship them to Pakistan & then they'll see they never had it so good in Israel. Yep- Homosexuality breeds love and peace- they're such a happy bunch- always witching about someone & complaining about something- I say give em somethign real to complain about- kick the ungrateful whelps out.

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

12 posted on 10/29/2006 8:22:24 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: pawdoggie
No sir that wouldn't include the Christians because the Christians aren't the ones trying to murder them, now are they? Radical pagan militant Islamics are- Not Christians- Christians are Jews by adoption throuhg Christ- We've become the chosen through proxy so to speak-

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

13 posted on 10/29/2006 8:25:18 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: Alouette

Is it the parade in any part of J'lem or does the parade go to visit certain places in J'lem that is the cause of outrage?


14 posted on 10/29/2006 8:25:26 PM PST by ikka
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To: Alouette

The very reason they want to parade their perversion there is because it is viewed as a Holy City. Otherwise they wouldn't go near it.


15 posted on 10/29/2006 8:26:59 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: CottShop
"Christians are Jews by adoption throuhg Christ"

The Haredim might disagree with you on that point.
16 posted on 10/29/2006 8:28:24 PM PST by ndt
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To: ndt

I'll take comments over beheadings any day.


17 posted on 10/29/2006 8:31:34 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: goldstategop
Put to the stick, perhaps? ;-).
18 posted on 10/29/2006 8:34:29 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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