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Gallaudet University Terminates Appointment of Incoming (deaf) President
Foxnews ^ | October 29, 2006 | AP

Posted on 10/29/2006 6:19:47 PM PST by kokonut

WASHINGTON — The board of trustees of the nation's premier school for the deaf voted Sunday to terminate the appointment of the incoming president, who had been the subject of protests, the board announced.

The vote at Gallaudet University came after a daylong closed-door meeting that followed a month of protests by students and faculty members. Jane Fernandes, the school's former provost, had been selected in May to take office in January.

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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

My experience is that we have not been involved with these way militant deaf. So I've been lucky.

My other experience is that I do agree with you on Harlan Lane - and I heard HE doen'st even sign.


41 posted on 10/30/2006 3:06:20 PM PST by merry10
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I wanted you to see another side of the story. I hate that you had such a bad experience. But there might have been other reasons why the kid chose not to embrace the mom.


42 posted on 10/30/2006 3:08:19 PM PST by merry10
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To: merry10
"The sons in the family want her to get a CI but they do not understand the extensive auditory rehabilitation one must go thru to understand sounds."

Oh yes! It took me a while. And one's mileage will vary.

It's interesting that one of the best predictors of success with the implant is "attitude". Passive folks somehow don't do as well as cussedly stubborn ones.
43 posted on 10/30/2006 3:08:25 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Yes, but not enough was known about implants in 1994 for me to rush and get her one. I did nto know she was deaf until July 94. And I did not know what was causing the seizures. I was not going to take any chances.

I work for the federal govt and Cochlear Implant surgery was not covered until 2001 or 2002 under Office of Personnel Managment rules. Believe it was under Bush that the CI surgery was finally covered. But I checked every year, for that and hearing aids, when the plans came up for renewal.

You may find it interesting that House Ear Clinic, when I called in 2002, basically told me to go pound sand when I inquired about an implant for her. Seems as though a signing kid might not do as well with an implant as one who grew up "oral". So I hung up and called UCLA and got into their CI Program. I think she has done well with the CI and within a year, was using phrases like "I see the blue bus", could recognize colors, numbers, and the ling sounds. UCLA"s implant program for us was outstanding.


44 posted on 10/30/2006 3:14:19 PM PST by merry10
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To: merry10
"My experience is that we have not been involved with these way militant deaf. So I've been lucky."

Maybe it's a West Coast thing? (But that wouldn't explain this Gallaudet episode!) ...I was quite the vocal advocate for the c.i. in its early days, and as I mentioned earlier I had to change my email address due to abusive messages from the capital-D deaf types, including the ones who would scream about the implant being "genocide." Similarly, at a party about a decade ago I met the family of the then-youngest recipient of a cochlear implant in the U.S., an adorable little boy not yet two years old, and his parents. He had started getting hate mail at his home, and his parents were quite frightened by it.

So yes, you (and your daughter) sound as though you've been very lucky indeed. Certainly I've known plenty of deaf folks, and only a few troublemakers. But, whoa, some of those folks can curl your hair with their invective.
45 posted on 10/30/2006 3:16:09 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: merry10

I'm quite shocked that you got that response from the House Clinic. They might not have said it in so many words, but attending a "deaf school" is a contraindication. They've seen too many kids go through the CI process and then stop wearing the device due to peer pressure. I know the House Clinic really well and am sitting here shaking my head at your experience. So sorry.


46 posted on 10/30/2006 3:19:17 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

We had a great therapist in Thousand Oaks (not sure where you are) who played games and stimulated her aurally that way. She was so fun. At our deaf school, she continues to get this therapy - 90 minutes a week. And one of the reasons I was happy with this school was that they had a program for kids with CIs. So yes, it worked out well. I wanted to give her access to all communication.


47 posted on 10/30/2006 3:21:10 PM PST by merry10
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

They knew she was not going to a deaf school, and they knew the program she was in in Simi. It was a dhh program but there were already kids in it with implants. And when I wanted to go to an AV clinic at the hospital across the street, the head of the HEI program told me there would not be enough food. So I called Cochlear and they made it so I could go. I wish I could say I were kidding, but I'm not. But it worked out better with UCLA, because they understood what we were looking for with the implant.


48 posted on 10/30/2006 3:27:36 PM PST by merry10
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To: merry10
I did not mean to imply that deaf children on the whole suffer from attachment disorder. It seems to me that you have explored multiple avenues in your quest to provide your child with the tools for a productive and happy life.

It's hearing of these people who advocate an almost militant stance against cochlear implants, or who terminate a university president for not "being deaf enough" that I wonder about a pathology.

49 posted on 10/30/2006 3:56:53 PM PST by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: kokonut

I turned a deaf ear to this story.


50 posted on 10/30/2006 5:20:29 PM PST by YourAdHere (Buy "Bradypalooza" at Amazon.Com.)
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To: merry10
They won't be in a small little world.

Good for them!

I went to school in the 60-70's so there were no cochlear implants or even email back then.

Have a question for you now. How do the graduates fare in the collison or construction business? Since they cannot hear, they cannot hear warnings of danger?

51 posted on 10/30/2006 6:46:07 PM PST by John123 (As a tribute to Red, I will light a cigar for every game the Celtics win this season...)
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To: John123

I will find out for you and let you know! But to be honest, deaf people have strengthened their other senses so that they can tell something is happening without having to hear it. I think their peripheral vision is stronger.

i worked with a deaf guy who was a civilian for the Navy and our command would not let him go aboard ship to do repairs becuase they were concerned for his safety.


52 posted on 10/31/2006 4:54:45 AM PST by merry10
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To: Sisku Hanne

I think there are always militants in every group.

I know you weren't implying that, but it triggered my memory about this one child who is not attached to her family. And for some deaf kids who do have a family - some of these kids have not been taught to communicate via voice OR sign, so when they go to a deaf school and their signing takes off as it is more "natural" for them...they do resent their family for not having learned to communicate with them. I think you need to give a kid SOME language and if one isnt working, try another.


53 posted on 10/31/2006 4:57:14 AM PST by merry10
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To: merry10; dmw; RoosterRe; Cinnamon Girl; MinorityRepublican; patriot_wes; SweetCaroline; ...

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54 posted on 10/31/2006 7:58:30 AM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: Sisku Hanne

"identity politics"

Ever notice how liberals love to stereotype and/or categorize people? I've known tons of liberals and nearly all of them think in terms of identity politics as you so aptly put it. They have a very difficult time dealing with people who don't fit neatly into their little boxes.


55 posted on 10/31/2006 8:09:26 AM PST by Starboard
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To: kokonut

And the interesting thing is that all these spoiled brats will get jobs because of the ADA.


56 posted on 10/31/2006 8:31:53 AM PST by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: hunter112

ALL OF THEM? Do you really know the whole story?


57 posted on 10/31/2006 9:07:59 AM PST by merry10
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To: hunter112
I am one of those "spoiled brats" you speak of. I am glad we have laws like ADA, because if we (deaf) didn't, then we would not have the opportunities we have today. And mostly because of pea brained thinking people like you who are full of prejudices and biases.
58 posted on 10/31/2006 10:34:26 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: merry10
would not let him go aboard ship to do repairs becuase they were concerned for his safety.

Absolutely. Administration at a laboratory that I used to work installed red strobe lights in all the labs I worked it. They went off when the fire alarm was tripped. Most employers would be very concerned putting people who cannot hear well in a position where they cannot hear warnings of danger for two reasons. First is obvious, nobody wants employees to get hurt and the second is lawsuits.

Is it discriminatory? I don't think so. But does it limit the opportunities of the deaf/hearing impaired people. Absolutely.

The way I see it, you have two choices, to become a victim (which many perfectly normal people do because it is easier than taking responsibility) or look for other opportunities.

59 posted on 10/31/2006 10:37:36 AM PST by John123 (As a tribute to Red, I will light a cigar for every game the Celtics win this season...)
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He wanted to do checkouts aboard ship and he was certainly capable of doing so, but the command was against it, so as far as I know he abided by the rules...actually he is doing quite well and is a deaf, gay man which is interesting. But he works very hard and was always trying to better himself by taking various classes, and leading disability working groups at the office...not crying ADA, but how to make the buildings safer for people who are deaf, blind, or in a wheelchair.


60 posted on 10/31/2006 5:12:35 PM PST by merry10
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