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The Enemy Fails
The New York Post ^ | 10/29/06 | Amir Tahiri

Posted on 10/29/2006 7:09:06 AM PST by freeperfromnj

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"It is largely the hope of breaking the will of the American people and its key allies that keeps the insurgency alive."

1 posted on 10/29/2006 7:09:07 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: AliVeritas; holdonnow

Ping


2 posted on 10/29/2006 7:11:39 AM PST by sono ("Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards." Samuel Huntington)
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To: freeperfromnj
It breaks my heart that the anti-American crowd at home has been building towards this moment for the last three years.

We know who they are. The smiling traitors posing as entertainers, the bilious propagandists in the partisan 'news' outlets and the perennial left wing hacks in positions of political power.

Do they want America to win in Iraq?

No.

Someone won't come right out and give a straight and unequivocal "YES" in answer to the question?

Chances are they have been hoping -- maybe even working -- for America's defeat from the very start.

3 posted on 10/29/2006 7:17:10 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: freeperfromnj
Agreed. The jihadists have failed to win over the Iraqi people and overthrow the country's freely elected government. But they had made headway in convincing a considerable segment of American elite opinion and part of the American people that the war is lost. The truth and perception are at complete odds with each other. Let's hope that we don't give them politically what they have failed to attain on the battlefield.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 10/29/2006 7:19:37 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: freeperfromnj
Gee, and I remember how we were repeatedly told that if we attacked Islamofascists during Ramadan, we were oh-so-terrible to spoil their holiday with violence.

...but when the muzzies do the killing, nobody bats an eye.

5 posted on 10/29/2006 7:26:57 AM PST by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: freeperfromnj
We won't know if the enemy failed until 11/8...or whenever the last of the court challenges is resolved.
6 posted on 10/29/2006 7:27:31 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: goldstategop
"Let's hope that we don't give them politically what they have failed to attain on the battlefield. "

Well said. Your statement sums up our foregone victory in Vietnam. And the left is definitely looking for a reprise in the war with radical islam.

7 posted on 10/29/2006 7:28:14 AM PST by trek
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To: BenLurkin
Video: O’Reilly asks Letterman if he “want[s] the US to win in Iraq”, no straight answer

Proof of their patriotism, to our enemies!

8 posted on 10/29/2006 7:28:19 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (This is a race for rubber ducks, not meat ducks! Product the tech! ~ Homer Simpson~)
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To: sono; All

Thanks sono,

For those on the left spouting "Iraq would've been better under Saddam" (Graphic):

http://rayrobison.typepad.com/ray_robison/2006/10/new_video_army_.html


9 posted on 10/29/2006 7:28:49 AM PST by AliVeritas (We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin)
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To: BenLurkin
What you say is undeniably true...yet part of the blame for the dispirited here in America lies with our leadership that let the likes of Moqtada al-Sadr live so he could resume killing our people just scant months later. And for cryin' out loud, Saddam Hussein's trial has long since turned into a circus side show. These are not exactly morale boosters for the people at home and abroad.

By waging this war without the will to deny our enemy the ability to ever strike back again, we are assured to be in Iraq for years to come...with absolutely no end to the terrorist infiltration and insurgency in sight.

10 posted on 10/29/2006 7:31:06 AM PST by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: goldstategop
But they had made headway in convincing a considerable segment of American elite opinion and part of the American people that the war is lost.

They are almost as good at it as the liberal political machine here in the U.S.

11 posted on 10/29/2006 7:36:02 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: freeperfromnj
"It is largely the hope of breaking the will of the American people and its key allies that keeps the insurgency alive.">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I am reminded of all the Caterwauling I have heard on NPR as they interview each family they can who have lost a loved one KIA or WIA. They stress the horror of sacrifice, and attempt to subvert support of our War efforts through raw emotion.

Likewise, the Prairie Home Companion series continually bashes our Republican leadership in trite , jingoistic terms that would leave Chinese Communists and Fascists quaking in admiration.

I am developing an abiding hatred for these seditionists.And if I , a moderate person, feel this way, I can imagine how many Republicans must feel.....I hope this brings out over 90% of the Republican vote.

12 posted on 10/29/2006 7:39:24 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: AliVeritas

"Iraq would've been better under Saddam"

I was shocked when I heard Michael Savage say that.


13 posted on 10/29/2006 7:40:52 AM PST by Griddlee
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To: BenLurkin

Those people indeed want America to lose. Not that they hate America so much, but they hate Bush and want him to fail. They are so short sighted of the consequences. Of couse consequences, when it comes to liberals, are never considered a priority.

When the public runs war games, we will always be on the losing side.


14 posted on 10/29/2006 7:41:12 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Prime Choice

GWB only mistake in the war is he tried to be idealistic. President Wilson tried that after World War I and he learned bitterly that the world is selfish and evil. Bush is learning the same thing, especially dealing with the Sunnis in Iraq. They are 20 percent of Iraq's population and under Saddam they brutally ruled the Shiites and Kurds. It was the Sunnis that boycott the elections and allied with Al Qaida fighters. It was the Sunnis that used car bombs on Shiite civilians and attacked mosques. The US should have formed the free Iraqi forces composed of Shiites and Kurds, and encouraged them to unleash their militias on the Sunnis in their areas, and eventually enter Sunnis territories to round up every Baathist member (we had the list when we captured Baghdad) for interrogation and trial. Any slight active link to Saddam's regime (even if you cooked food for Saddam's military/police) is grounds for a speedy trial and firing squad. The objective to crushing the Sunnis insurgency is to shoot as many military age Sunni men/boys that have links to the former regime. Two things will happen, the Sunnis will be forced on the defense and many will flee to Syria thus destabilizing another insurgency supporter. If we have done that within one year after the fall of Saddam, today we would have a Shiite/Kurd coalition government ruling Iraq in relative peace and some of our troops would be home.


15 posted on 10/29/2006 7:54:21 AM PST by Fee
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To: goldstategop
...they had made headway in convincing a considerable segment of American elite opinion and part of the American people that the war is lost.



I wonder if it isn't the other way around: the elites and the progressives have encouraged the jihadis with the prospect of undermining the resolve of the American people.

I also wonder how many back channel contacts there have been between our political and media elites, the hard-core progressives and the political leaders of the Islamofascists. I recall the story now circulating about Kennedy's approach to Andropov, the various progressive socialists meeting w/Ortega, Kerry meeting w/the Cong and since I never see them using a new tactic, I assume they are continuing with their former ones.

I do think that today it is much more difficult to convince the majority of us who were alive in the 60s/70s that we are losing. Although I have had my own wobbly moments, all I have to do is go online to FR and I can read the direct experiences of our military and the Iraqi bloggers. When I have to admit there is a mess in Iraq, I know where to place the blame: on those who are trying as hard as they can to convince me the mess means we are losing, rather than that the jihadis and the progressives are losing.
16 posted on 10/29/2006 7:54:28 AM PST by reformedliberal ("Eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years." Ayatollah Khomeini)
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To: BenLurkin

Amen.

Why is it they can't see the step-by-step changing of laws towards muslims and Islam with the ACLU.

Do they think they'll KEEP their heads with republicans out of office?

While they fight for terrorists rights and claim to have a plan?

While they fight for no fence at all and amnesty?

While they fight against listening to terrorists or even playing other than Joan Baez is torture?

If I didn't know better, I'd think all of them converted decades ago. It doesn't made even common sense.

They were behind CAIR touring our security at airports, teaching sensitivity classes to law enforcement around the country and even on the hill, the NEA teaching Islam and understanding (to the point of taking kids to the mosques in some instances, God forbid you attempt to visit a church), they don't us to follow their finances, they reveal secret prisons and methods (so the enemy will know), they take every opportunity from our on intelligence community to leak info that could only benefit the enemy. They purposely filibuster the Patriot Act and celebrate after. We just help stop the taking of planes from England for more of the 9/11 same... made not a ripple in their view. If people knew how many in this country have cases pending for terror financing... they would die. Young muslims buying up cell phones... they're told they're stereotyping and let off. Actual camps reported two years ago in Arizona... nothing in the MSM, and they fight even harder for nothing on the border.
They want us to be energy independent, but don't want us to drill... in other words, they want to us to be dependent to Saudi Arabia and the middle east.

Will it take a Beslan to convince them?
People are being slaughtered around the world via Islam, yet we have a new mosque at West Point for 35?
They're exploiting vets and active duty to turn against our country...

For such worldly, european thoughts of the dems, they can't see what's happening in Eurarabia.

Bin Laden himself told them the reasons he kept attacking... because of the pull out years ago. Terrorists are in Iraq from all over the world, we leave... then where will they go? Will they just, as dems think, leave us alone? Please.

They're blessed that i'm not president, wall, deportations, no one coming here from certain countries...
Mind you, even then... the terrorists and supporters from Bosnia, Germany and the UK itself as well as those we don't know about sleeping here, would be hard to catch... they don't fit the profile if you know what I mean.

The common denominator is the religion itself, every last one of the terrorists are carrying out 'their faith', for those who lie and say it's not true... it's Al-Tayyia, a lie, to further the foothold inside this country. PC will kill us. Yet the ACLU fights harder FOR this religion as it kills any other form. The millions killed in religious persecutions around the world and are being killed right now... you don't hear about it; As if this is one incident, not worldwide.

They must be possessed, I can't think of any other sane reason. They don't even possess self-preservation.


17 posted on 10/29/2006 7:54:33 AM PST by AliVeritas (We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin)
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To: freeperfromnj

I guess we had better give up.


18 posted on 10/29/2006 7:54:37 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Don't forget Rosie couldn't say yes, or Wolf (until the vice lady pinned him down the other day).


19 posted on 10/29/2006 7:55:26 AM PST by AliVeritas (We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin)
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To: Prime Choice

Let me tell you... when they were shooting from the mosque in Iraq, I would have lit it up... we wouldn't be worried about Mookie Al Sadr now if we had.


20 posted on 10/29/2006 7:56:27 AM PST by AliVeritas (We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin)
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