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You can keep on fighting the 30 Years War but the Treaty of Westphalia, one of the most enlightened items in the history of mankind, brought an end to it.

I don't see what you're getting at. Certainly Europe's religious wars are a prime example of what I'm talking about: the idiocy of religion-based murder.

BTW, you may have missed it, but you made an appeal to morality in justifying your thought that killing is bad.

This belief is axiomatic in the conversation. I would hope that both of use believe that unjustified killing is wrong, regardless of why we believe that.

Why? An axiom is simply another element in a system of "truths" that have been laid out. For example plain geometry has a series of axioms. Learn the axioms and you can prove theorems. Prove theorems and you can design stuff that fits, more or less, in the real world.

So, why should we set an axiom that killing each other is bad? Don't you taste good or what.