[lormand]

Weiner seems to attract people who share his lack of pragmatism, and long term strategy to further the Conservative movement. Instant gratification is for people high on crack, not American politics. Change is very slow.

I conclude that you are one of the Weiner fans who want instant gratification on all issues that you deem Conservative. Dream on.

Expect plenty more Weiner critisms and attacks by me until he is gone.

[montag813]

Instant gratification is for people high on crack, not American politics. Change is very slow.

Bush's "change" on immigration is not my idea of Conservatism. But you continue to have no response to that. Nice try, "Dude".

[ansel12]

DLC | New Dem Daily | December 15, 2000
Idea of the Week: A Military Charter School
If ever there was a sign of changing times, this is it: Oakland, CA, Mayor Jerry Brown, with the support of Gov. Gray Davis and U.S. Sen. Diane Feinstein, has convinced the CA Board of Education to approve and partially fund a military charter school in his city, over the opposition of Bay Area anti-military activists.

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"Brown had continued to hammer away at his presidential campaign themes of corporate greed and political corruption, as well as to pursue the New Age interests he'd cultivated as California's "Governor Moonbeam" from 1974 to 1982: biodynamic gardening, yoga and meditation classes, and discussions on ecologically sensitive urban planning. His weekly talk show on far-left Pacifica radio featured various countercultural critics denouncing global capitalists, American inequality, and the "propaganda system of the so-called free world."

"By the 1970s, the Panthers had become an important force in Oakland politics and the state Democratic Party. Panther Bobby Seale made a credible run for mayor in 1973, and Panther Elaine Brown got 40 percent of the vote for a city council seat in 1975, with the backing of Congressman Ron Dellums and organized labor. In 1976, Governor Jerry Brown appointed her as his delegate to the Democratic presidential convention."

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Michael Savage isn't the only one to choose Brown over the conservative, Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore, And Planned Parenthood have endorsed him.
Other endorsements of Jerry Brown, against the conservative Chuck Poochigian .
http://www.jerrybrown.org/endorsements

[Checkers]

"Weiner seems to attract people who share his lack of pragmatism, and long term strategy to further the Conservative movement. Instant gratification is for people high on crack, not American politics. Change is very slow.
I conclude that you are one of the Weiner fans who want instant gratification on all issues that you deem Conservative. Dream on.

Expect plenty more Weiner critisms and attacks by me until he is gone."



Yep

[Finny]

Late returning to the party, but lormand, it has to be said -- you are ELOQUENT on this thread!!