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PUll out of California - 2400+ homicides in 2003(vanity)
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Posted on 10/28/2006 6:02:52 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota

In 2003, 2402 homicides were commited in California, 240 of them against children (under 18). That is over 200 civilian casualties per month, on the average...and 20 children per day...

It is time for us to recognize that we must pull out of California...I recommend everyone from California leave...

It is clear that democracy in California cannot work, as they are just not redy for it.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; crime
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To: wizr

The Indians were a diverse group. The peaceful Indians had been wiped out by many of the warlike Indians.

Also, the indians had static primitive (extremely primitive) cultures. They lacked any capacity to change, yet they longed for (and craved) what a modern civilized culture could provide. The first time an Indian lusted for a rifle, glass beads, liquor, etc. they were a dead culture. They were inefficient and could not produce what they had to have. Not willing to be educated, or work in the modern culture they were doomed.

What is happening today is not at all what happened over the last several hundred years to the Indians. It happened from upper Canada all the way to the Southern tip of South America.
Any attempt to close borders now is labelled as racism by the liberal fascists, they do the same in Europe by calling any attempt to rein in islamofascism as racism. The real struggle is between the liberal fascists who want to control people through an all-powerful socialist government and people who want less government control


41 posted on 10/28/2006 7:06:42 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Guenevere

Some are hardened by the heat in the furnace, and some just melt...those who survive are stronger for it...

God bless California for these people...


42 posted on 10/28/2006 7:07:07 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Beautifully expressed...

..to be honest, I've spent some time (although very little) in California and my son lived there briefly.

We both prefer Texas!

43 posted on 10/28/2006 7:11:05 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: LachlanMinnesota

We are all children.


44 posted on 10/28/2006 7:17:08 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Gangs, and drive bys and control of street drugs...
Turf battle...going on in front of our eyes....
We really need to address the problem, and no, more
money will not solve it....
And yeah, more people are killed in America due to lax
enforcement of laws, commuted sentences, illegal criminal
aliens, etc. than have been killed in Iraq.
I think 16,000 were murdered in a "non-war" situation in 2005
in the U.S. If Iraq has 25 million, and the U.S.has
300 mill, we are about 12 times as large population wise.
About 1,000 soldiers are killed a year (may God rest their
brave souls), which if extrapolated to U.S. pop. is 12,000
a year. Still less than our domestic kill rates.
A consideration lost on the critics for sure.


45 posted on 10/28/2006 7:21:41 AM PDT by Getready (Truth and wisdom are more elusive, and valuable, than gold and diamonds)
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To: Guenevere

It's safer in Baghdad then Detroit.


46 posted on 10/28/2006 7:23:46 AM PDT by Shocked2
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To: Shocked2

Just so...and why do the people in Detroit vote lefty all the time?


47 posted on 10/28/2006 7:25:00 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Shocked2
...and would you rather live in Baghdad than Detroit?
48 posted on 10/28/2006 7:26:08 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: LachlanMinnesota
The funny thing is that I love California.

When I think about what a mess the decadent Left has made of one of the most beautiful and promising places on earth I feel like weeping.

49 posted on 10/28/2006 7:26:19 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("We can either fight the Democrats at the polls or...fight terrorists in our streets." ~jmaroneps37)
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To: Guenevere

Give me Minnesota...God's country...even with the socialists...any day.


50 posted on 10/28/2006 7:28:18 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

So, you are saying that hordes of people leaving California, with pockets full of equity money, moving back across the U.S. buying up everything in their path isn't anything like "manifest destiny"? Investors haven't raised home and rent prices wherever their greedy hands have touched?

It was not "warlike tribes" that caused the "Trail of Tears" to Oklahoma. Then recliamed it after oil was found. Nor did the "warlike tribes" concede the Black Hills and then retake them (re: Custer) when gold was discovered.


51 posted on 10/28/2006 7:30:50 AM PDT by wizr (Live life with a Passion!)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

I posted this same idea about pulling out of California on 12/5/05. We should hammer it over and over just as the libs do the Iraq casualties.
About 2 miles from my home, a radical war protester has a hill covered with with crosses and he adds more regularly. In my opinion he is making a political statement, not honoring our brave heroes.
Thanks for reminding us of the media and democrat assault on our security. No cut and run.


52 posted on 10/28/2006 7:33:19 AM PDT by Bushiefan
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To: Savage Beast
This is true...
..except for the politics......

..this is beautiful country...(excluding of course, the smog of LA)

My son lived in Northern California.....very lovely....Napa Valley....

..and beyond LA....the surrounding countryside, the PCH, Santa Barbara area....very lovely.

San Francisco....minus the politics and the strange people....a beautiful cityscape.

Pasadena, Carmel, San Jose....etc.you are so right...

..and there are many good folk in this state who are just as conservative as the rest of us!

53 posted on 10/28/2006 7:40:15 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: LachlanMinnesota

"Seriously, no dissing of California...."

Well, speak for yourself. As for me, the last time I was in L.A. was in 1963. It was a nightmare then. traffic was even worse. Couldn't immagine living there. On the freeways, one could drive 200 miles without a single place to go to the bathroom save a vinyard. I was traveling with my mother-in-law, and she said we couldn't get off the freeeway or we'd never get back on. She was right, only way to get from one side of the freeway to the other was to be born there.

If we're getting spinach contaminated with e-coli it's no wonder. Better start looking at Grapes, too.


54 posted on 10/28/2006 7:49:10 AM PDT by texaslil (and)
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To: Guenevere

And don't forget Mount Shasta! And Big Sur--my absolute favorite! And the Santa Cruz Mountains! And Point Reyes! And the Sierras! And the wine! The fruit and vegetables--unsurpassed anywhere! Stinson Beach! Esalen! The Golden Gate Bridge! The sunset over the Pacific! Cheese! Almonds! Olives! Olive oil! The shops and restaurants! The Oakville Grocery Store! Fresh mushrooms! All those wonderful people everywhere! I LOVE CALIFORNIA!


55 posted on 10/28/2006 7:57:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("We can either fight the Democrats at the polls or...fight terrorists in our streets." ~jmaroneps37)
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To: Savage Beast
I haven't seen as much as you have, but my son visited Point Reyes and told me the view was amazing!..I think he saw whales,

I did get to a farmer's market in Marin County and the wares....the vegetables, fruits and flowers were absolutley luscious in color.

56 posted on 10/28/2006 8:15:24 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Savage Beast

Muir Woods, too!


57 posted on 10/28/2006 8:15:25 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Let the Chihuahuas bark, it makes them FEEL big.
58 posted on 10/28/2006 8:26:11 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (Red is good)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

You forgot to add that many of these killings are done by forign and sectarian gangs who have invaded to take over turf and involve themselves in criminal enterprises as well as terrorizing peaceful neighbors.

US out of California NOW!


59 posted on 10/28/2006 11:55:19 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wizr

There were peaceful and warlike tribes. All kinds of tribes. They were primitive. No present day Indians, want to live in the primitive cultures that their ancestors did.
The casino Indians live more like the modern culture than the Indians of two hundred years ago.
The culture of the Europeans has evolved considerably over the last three hundred years. It is the ability to adapt to changing conditions that gives this culture a chance to survive. The Indian cultures did not have the time, nor were they willing to modernize. Modernize is a judgemental term. Anyone not willing to recognize this culture as a modernization (major improvement) over the Indian culture is just being argumentative.

Even if the racists manage to eliminate every last one of the Euproean descendants, our culture will continue to evolve as it is more efficient. The patent office, capitalism, freedom of religion, private ownership of property, the right to bear arms, states rights over federal government, public and private education and good beer. All these rights are under assault, but without them, the culture we bought over from Europe would not have succeeded to form a nation that people all over the world want to join.
American culture and America is the envy of the world. People do not like us because we are so much more successful than them. Our existance threatens every dictator and socialist government in the world as their people know there is a better way.

PS: After General Custer was eliminated, in a violent battle, the Indians were never again able to mount a sustained battle. In effect, the Indians ability to fight a war was massacred at the battle of the Greasy Grass.


60 posted on 10/29/2006 4:12:59 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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