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And there you have it. The black box has spoken.
1 posted on 10/25/2006 11:59:45 AM PDT by Torie
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Stupid, stupid, stupid. When will these analysts ever learn to stop believing the polls?


60 posted on 10/25/2006 12:54:59 PM PDT by Princip. Conservative (I have voted - have you?)
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In a new research paper, three political scientists attempt to use the results of generic congressional polls to predict the outcome of the midterm elections.

Yeah, and we all know how accurate polls are. :::sarc:::

61 posted on 10/25/2006 12:57:37 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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generic vote polls

USELESS

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/generic_vote.html

RCP Final Pre-Election Avg 10/27 - 11/1 45.4% 45.4% TIE
GW/Battleground 10/31-11/1 47% 44% R + 3%
CNN/USAT/Gallup 10/29 - 10/31 46% 47% D + 1%
NBC/WSJ 10/29 - 10/31 43% 44% D + 1%
Rasmussen 10/29 - 10/31 42% 48% D +6%
Democracy Corps (D) 10/29 - 10/31 46% 48% D + 2%
Newsweek 10/27 - 10/29 49% 44% R + 5%
Democracy Corps (D) 10/26 - 10/28 45% 48% D + 3%
GW-Battleground 10/25 - 10/28 44% 45% D + 1%
Rasmussen 10/25 - 10/27 43% 44% D + 1%
Democracy Corps (D) 10/24 - 10/25 42% 51% D + 9%
CNN/USAT/Gallup 10/22 - 10/24 50% 47% R + 3%
Newsweek 10/21 - 10/22 47% 46% R + 1%
Democracy Corps (D) 10/20 - 10/21 44% 49% D + 5%
GW-Battleground 10/18 - 10/21 43% 46% D + 3%
AP-Ipsos 10/18 - 10/20 46% 47% D + 1%
CBS News 10/14 - 10/17 39% 45% D + 6%
Rasmussen 10/14 - 10/16 42% 44% D + 2%
Newsweek 10/14 - 10/15 43% 46% D + 3%
GW-Battleground 10/11 - 10/14 40% 44% D + 4%
Rasmussen 10/7 - 10/9 42% 44% D + 2%
GW-Battleground 10/4 - 10/7 42% 43% D + 1%
AP/Ipsos 10/4 - 10/6 44% 48% D + 4%
Rasmussen 10/3 - 10/5 41% 46% D + 5%
Democracy Corps (D) 10/3 - 10/5 45% 49% D + 4%


62 posted on 10/25/2006 1:01:47 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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The only poll that matters is actual vote.


63 posted on 10/25/2006 1:02:29 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (Democrats delinda est.)
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LOL! bump.


65 posted on 10/25/2006 1:07:14 PM PDT by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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Bookmarked.


66 posted on 10/25/2006 1:09:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/03/last_weeks_myths_about_2006.html


"If you look at the Gallup generic measure since 1994, you will see that the average poll skews toward the Democrats by an average of 6%. In 2002, the average skew was a whopping 8%. The final Gallup poll before the election has fared even worse. It has skewed toward the Democrats by 7% on average and by 10% in 2002."


67 posted on 10/25/2006 1:09:53 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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Only problem is the polling data they are feeding the black box is junk. Garbage in, Garbage out.


70 posted on 10/25/2006 1:14:45 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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Great - now I don't even have to bother to go vote.... (sac/off)


71 posted on 10/25/2006 1:15:44 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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Novak is saying Dem's gain 26 House seats. Hey Bob... f _ _ k you!


72 posted on 10/25/2006 1:23:41 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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I guess it is about time for a few of us dumb ol' Republicans to show this learned man, just how wrong he is....................


73 posted on 10/25/2006 1:26:45 PM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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"Near", as in "close" but no cigar.

Hehe. Gotta love their little pointy heads.


74 posted on 10/25/2006 1:29:08 PM PDT by prov1813man
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"Via computer simulation based on statistical analysis of historical data, we show how generic vote polls can be used to forecast the election outcome. We convert the results of generic vote polls into a projection of the actual national vote for Congress and ultimately into the partisan division of seats in the House of Representatives.

behind the scenes...


76 posted on 10/25/2006 1:37:28 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso, Oct April 2006, TxMMP/MMP-LAREDO)
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"Political Scientist" = Oxymoron


77 posted on 10/25/2006 1:41:12 PM PDT by Al Simmons ("I leave Japanese film in your hands." - Akira Kurosawa to Takeshi Kitano, 1998)
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Are these the same University "experts" who claimed that President George Washington and all the other presidents got blow jobs from interns while in the White House during the "everybody does it" campaign? Just wondering...LOL


79 posted on 10/25/2006 2:08:51 PM PDT by Texas Chilli
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"Political Scientists Say Democratic Control [of House] a Near Certainty'"

OK. Will they quit, or submit themselves to public ridicule if they are wrong?

80 posted on 10/25/2006 2:31:16 PM PDT by tom h
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Our model allows both a point forecast

The only "point" is on top of your head, fella.

81 posted on 10/25/2006 2:43:27 PM PDT by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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"Via computer simulation based on statistical analysis of historical data, we show how generic vote polls can be used to forecast the election outcome.

Yup. That same idea got Skerry and edwards elected in 2004... Oh wait.... NOT!

Every time I read this type of garbage, this comes to mind.

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82 posted on 10/25/2006 2:59:03 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("I don't know how anyone can go to Church on Sunday, and vote for a democrat the following Tuesday.")
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"ANSWER HAZY, PLEASE TRY AGAIN."
Who are they trying to convince? Us or them?
Everyday there is a whole new spate of Republicans are doomed. And the only conservative I have read who says we will lose house is Michael Barone?
SO WHO ARE THESE DOOM AND GLOOM NAYSAYERS?


83 posted on 10/25/2006 3:00:49 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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Well given all these studies and polls, we might as well call off the election. The Democrats have already won. It's over, and we'll save time and money if we just use the pollsters to coronate those who are now ahead. Besides, it will save black people the horror of the Republican harassment and dirty tricks that always keep them from voting. We might as well turn over the Senate, too, since the Democrats should rightly have it. Of course Bush actually lost two times, so he needs to go too.

A glimpse into the mind of a liberal.

101 posted on 10/25/2006 9:19:45 PM PDT by adam_smith_76
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