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Doomsday Scenario: 'America Alone' [Paul Gigot interview with Mark Steyn]
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Posted on 10/24/2006 4:34:24 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Aetius

I do not think his view of what will happen in Europe is correct.

The Muslims who are there now are living on the labour of Europeans. They do not have the skills to earn a living in a competitive global economy. In fact, they don't even remember how to herd goats and sow millet. What the heck would they do to get by if the Europeans disappeared?


21 posted on 10/24/2006 5:10:15 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: sgtbono2002

If the Mexican wants a rapid transfer of wealth from the Anglo to him?


22 posted on 10/24/2006 5:13:36 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: TexanToTheCore
I just do not think that Europe will go muslim. As to why it stops and reverses, I think the EU is due for a Great Awakening of their own, which might have a big effect on the pregnancy rate.

I've lived in Europe for half of my adult life. I don't see them reversing this trend. Not in the least. Secularism and nanny state socialism/multiculturalism are too deeply entrenched.

Poland might escape this fate due to the strong influence of the Catholic Church and the relatively robust birth rate. But western Europe and Scandinavia are likely doomed. The Muslims have a huge head start on the baby front--by least one full generation. In the demographics game baby power increases exponentially, not additively.

23 posted on 10/24/2006 5:18:23 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: proxy_user
The Muslims who are there now are living on the labour of Europeans.

The European population is rapidly aging, average age almost 30. The average age of the Muslim population in Europe is under 15.

When the social state collapses because there is no one left to support it, the Muslims will not go home. They will take over a rotten, decrepit Europe and turn it into a large Islamic slum.

24 posted on 10/24/2006 5:22:08 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Sub-Driver

Europe deserves to be enslaved forever by Islamofascism, as Hashem's punishment for 2000 years of persecution, culminating in the Shoah.

Now, Europe wants Islamists to finish the job of Hitler.

G-d, how I hate f**king Europe. Whatever evil befalls it could never be bad enough.


25 posted on 10/24/2006 5:28:37 PM PDT by fireman43
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To: JCEccles

That's my question - who will send them their welfare check? Where will they cash it?


26 posted on 10/24/2006 5:31:49 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: sgtbono2002
I dont worry too much about Mexican or Spanish speaking immigrants, they arent trying to kill us. At worst if they take over we learn a new language and have to start living in a third world country.

Well the thugs among them don't mind killing you, or other Hispanic immigrants for that matter. Still most are Christian, mostly but not exclusively Catholic or Evangelicals of various sorts. They tend to have large families, but it's hard to say how long that might last. The same was once true of Irish and Italian immigrants as well, but isn't any more (for the most part). And most, more so in Texas, less so in "welfare haven" California, come to work, and do.

27 posted on 10/24/2006 5:32:12 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Hawk1976; sgtbono2002
They mean to do the same to us as the mohameddans do.

I agree with sgtbono2002 - they (south of the border) are not out to kill us. At least not yet.

The followers of Allah are taught from get go that it is necessary to kill the infidels.

Big difference.

Just look at the motivating factors....

The Mexicans (or any illegal group) want to get here why?

To get a better life.

Islam flat out vows to kill us because of who we are. No if's / and's / but's. They are driven to kill any non-beliver.

At least the Mexicans believe in the same God I do. Or at least don't vow to kill me.

28 posted on 10/24/2006 5:44:00 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: Sub-Driver
GIGOT: Is there any way that Europe can avoid being Islamacized in this way?

It looks pretty hopeless - the majority of european women are getting past the child bearing age - so even if they wanted to save part of their civilization, it would be too late.

Europe will have the feel of a poor Muslim country...soon.

Without sand, it might be harder to bury the women up to their waist when they need to be stoned to death, but other than that, it'll be the same...

29 posted on 10/24/2006 5:44:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Movie tickets are a donation to the forces that hate us, our families, and our beliefs. Boycott)
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To: fireman43
G-d, how I hate f**king Europe. Whatever evil befalls it could never be bad enough.

Ummmm.....wow....?

Ever been there?

30 posted on 10/24/2006 5:46:45 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: Sub-Driver
...on the other side of the Iran Curtain during the Cold War...

Does Fox News have any proofreaders?

31 posted on 10/24/2006 5:47:22 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: Sub-Driver
America is already alone, and has been for years.

The sooner we realize it, and discontinue fawning on the "world community", the better off we will be.

32 posted on 10/24/2006 5:49:15 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Some moron brought a cougar to a party, and it went berserk.)
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To: TexanToTheCore
The chance for a western awakening will come with the detonation of the Islamic bomb in a western city. At that point it will be clear to even the most pacifist European socialist or American democrat that hard choices must be made.

In America, I have every confidence that the right decision will be made and the real war against the Islamists and the blame America liberals will begin. In Europe I have my doubts.
33 posted on 10/24/2006 5:52:01 PM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: sgtbono2002; floridareader1; Sooth2222; unkus
At worst if they take over we learn a new language and have to start living in a third world country.

I've always wondered about this reconquista thing. Suppose they did take over the US govt with their numbers. Just like the Clintonites marveled at "THEIR" air force planes that they "acquired" control over in 1992, in the very worst case where the Mexicans take over, what would they do?

Cede land back to Mexico at that point? Duh.

Hell, they're gonna annex Mexico! Imagine what that would do to OSHA, the EPA, the IRS for the interim! They'd be so busy chasing the corruption in Mexico that us gringo's would be able to flourish! (/positive thinking)

34 posted on 10/24/2006 5:56:58 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

If we gave Mexico all of the Southwest and formed new borders, within 5 years we would have the same problems.


35 posted on 10/24/2006 5:59:27 PM PDT by unkus
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To: proxy_user
They would keep enough "slave labor" to maintain a minimal standard of living.
36 posted on 10/24/2006 6:01:35 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Jim Noble
"America is already alone, and has been for years.

The sooner we realize it, and discontinue fawning on the "world community", the better off we will be"

Hey don't let John Kerry hear you say that.

37 posted on 10/24/2006 6:04:05 PM PDT by marlon
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To: sgtbono2002
At worst if they take over we learn a new language and have to start living in a third world country.

Living in Latin America is not the worst thing. And Spanish is a nice language with good literature and poetry.

38 posted on 10/24/2006 6:08:44 PM PDT by A. Pole (Holbrooke:"Forget multi-ethnic Kosovo.Forget Res. 1244. We only signed that to get rid of the Serbs")
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To: unkus
Assimilation is the key.

Assimilation is not enough, Europe to survive needs mass conversions and more native children.

Society without religion or children is doomed.

39 posted on 10/24/2006 6:11:18 PM PDT by A. Pole (Holbrooke:"Forget multi-ethnic Kosovo.Forget Res. 1244. We only signed that to get rid of the Serbs")
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40 posted on 10/24/2006 6:13:39 PM PDT by A. Pole (Holbrooke:"Forget multi-ethnic Kosovo.Forget Res. 1244. We only signed that to get rid of the Serbs")
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