[JimRed]

...he accepted the brilliance of Donald Rumsfeld's idea for a brand-new downsized "smart" army,...

And if Rumsfeld's idea had been an old fashioned expanded brutal and stupid army, you'd be whining about that instead.

[Griddlee]

To Jon Carroll---Chesty Puller would not approve of talking in a defeatist, demoralizing way while the troops are in harms way.

"We're surrounded!--they can't get away this time"