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Blue-eyed men prefer blue-eyed women: researchers
Reuters ^ | 10-23-06 | Anon

Posted on 10/23/2006 9:03:42 AM PDT by Pharmboy

Blue-eyed men prefer blue-eyed women, apparently because eye color can help reveal whether their partner has been faithful, researchers said on Monday.

"Before you request a paternity test, spend a few minutes looking at your child's eye color," Bruno Laeng and colleagues at the University of Tromso in Norway said in the study.

Under the laws of genetics, two parents with blue eyes will always have blue-eyed children, it said. So a blue-eyed man can know his blue-eyed wife or partner has cheated on him if their child has brown eyes.

"Blue-eyed men may have unconsciously learned to value a physical trait that can facilitate recognition of own kin," the scientists said in the journal Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology.

The scientists asked 88 students to rate the attractiveness of models based on pictures manipulated so that half of them had blue eyes and the other half had brown eyes. The blue-eyed men in the group showed a preference for blue-eyed women.

But brown-eyed men, who cannot find any clues about paternity from a child's eye color, had no preferences by eye color. Women showed no preference for brown- or blue-eyed men, irrespective of their own eye color.

A quarter of children born to two brown-eyed parents who have both brown and blue-eye genes among their ancestors will have blue eyes. The rest will be brown.

In a second study, 443 young adults of both sexes were asked about the eye color of their partners -- blue-eyed men were also the group with the highest proportion of partners with the same eye color.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blueeyes; fidelity; genes; helixmakemineadouble; hereyes; matechoice; mutation
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To: AnAmericanMother

"Blue eyed parents have about a 25 percent chance of having a brown-eyed baby."

No, they don't. If both parents have true blue eyes (NOT hazel), their child's eyes will be blue, barring a rare freak mutation.


161 posted on 10/23/2006 11:38:39 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Pharmboy
"Interesting, eh?"

I'm attracted to blue-eyed, blond-haired women and I always thought it was because that's what I am. Albeit, my 2nd wife was red-haired with green eyes.

162 posted on 10/23/2006 11:38:46 AM PDT by blam
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To: AuH2ORepublican
A geneticist would say that either your mom or your dad actually had greenish or hazel eyes that just looked blue, but were not "true blue" (2 recessive genes) eyes.

hmmm nope thats not it either, I guess we are just the black sheeps of the family or would that be greened eyed of the family. All of our cousins have very vivid blue eyes. Like political polls I put very little faith into scientific studies
163 posted on 10/23/2006 11:39:14 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: LucyT

The magic of HTML. LOL. I'm guessing the rainbow fonts were quite indicative of the personality.


164 posted on 10/23/2006 11:40:33 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Kitten Festival

Blue eyes will occur only if all four alleles are for blue eyes.

It's hardly breaking science.

Your brother-in-law needs to talk to Brother Mendel.


165 posted on 10/23/2006 11:42:23 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Pharmboy
Blue-eyed men prefer blue-eyed women

Maybe if I preferred white women....

166 posted on 10/23/2006 11:43:40 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: LizardQueen

The pigment is there for a reason --- presumably UV protection --- I would watch out for cataracts and/or other eye damage.

Wear GOOD UV glasses 24/7.


167 posted on 10/23/2006 11:45:15 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Hildy

I pay lots of attention to the eyes. For they are the windows of the soul. Original, ain't it.

But really, I go totally gaga over a great pair of eyes.


168 posted on 10/23/2006 11:47:24 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Okay, that makes sense. :-)


169 posted on 10/23/2006 11:59:26 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
In a world with pedigreed people strictly culled for a "true blue" eye color, that might be true.

If we were talking, say, Siamese cats (which I bred and showed for 15 years or so), I would agree with you. But we've had rigorous selective breeding of those cats for over a hundred years, and they reproduce much faster than humans. Even then, we're talking about several distinct recessive traits and factors, and the breeding square is complicated.

Human genetics is messier. There is more than one simple recessive gene at work here, and these flat-out statements just won't wash, especially in a population as diverse as the U.S.

I imagine the Norwegian gene pool is a little smaller and has more "true blue" eyes (although that's probably changed with the influx of Muslim immigrants.) I still wouldn't bet a marriage on it.

170 posted on 10/23/2006 12:09:13 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I wouldn't bet a marriage, either -- but a DNA test might be in order.

That said, the only way a brown-eyed child is possible is a parent is really a Hazel that is "passing" for blue.


171 posted on 10/23/2006 12:15:30 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: boxerblues

Even with "black sheep" with green eyes, it would not explain two people with genetically blue eyes having children with eyes that are a color other than blue. I know people with "vivid blue eyes" that, when the light hits them in a certain way, they look a bit greenish, and I assume that they are not the result of two recessive genes. I'm no geneticist, but I would guess that pale blue eyes are not true double-recessive blue eyes and thus could result in a brown-eyed gene being passed down.

BTW, people whose eyes are neither true blue nor true brown---be they green or pale blue or hazel or gray or caramel---most likely have one blue-eyed gene and one brown-eyed gene and have a very, very common "mutation" that produces not brown eyes (as one would expect with one brown and one blue gene) but another color.


172 posted on 10/23/2006 12:19:32 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: MeanWestTexan
You also have gray, blue-gray, and various shades of green in addition to true hazel. And the color expression is highly variable. My irises are a dark hazel but with a pale green center, my husband's pale blue-gray, and my daughter's eyes appear to be a mix of the two, appearing brown in some lights and blue in others. She kids that her eyes are color-coordinated to what she's wearing.

Even with all Siamese cats' eyes being nominally blue, and the thousands of generations we've had to fix the eye color, we still have to watch out for and breed out "funny" eye colors . . . I've seen cats with a pale washed out bluish gray eye color, and others so dark as to be almost indigo. The "ideal" under the standard is "deep vivid blue" for all coat colors, but it still varies. Generally, it appears that the gene for the dilute coat color also affects the eye color and washes it out to some extent, so that your Blue Point Siamese, for example, will have a darker blue eye than the Lilac Points. All the Blues have lighter eyes than the Seals, too, so I'm pretty sure that coat color has an effect.

173 posted on 10/23/2006 12:24:30 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: pissant
I prefer classy green eyed blondes

Here you go.

174 posted on 10/23/2006 12:25:07 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: Skooz

All the photos have been pulled, so we'll have to use our imaginations.


175 posted on 10/23/2006 12:53:56 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Fawn
Who cares what men want?

That's so 90's

176 posted on 10/23/2006 2:34:30 PM PDT by Bill_o'Rights
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To: MeanWestTexan

Yes, brown is dominant.

My husband has brown eyes and his dad has blue eyes. My husband's sperm carries both blue eyed and brown eyed genes. I have blue eyes.

My daughters have blue eyes, but their eggs can also carry the brown eyed gene because of their dad.

If they marry someone with blue eyes, their children can still have brown eyes because it takes both sets of genes to make blue eyes.

In my brother's case, we have both blue-eyed and brown-eyed ancestors. Our parents are both blue-eyed, but I know that at least one of my grandparents had brown eyes.

My brothers eyes are not as dark brown as my husband and my son. Maybe they would be considered hazel, but we always said he had brown eyes.

There was no infedelity either. My brother looks just like my dad accept for his eyes (and he looks like me), and he was definitely carried by my mom.


177 posted on 10/23/2006 2:37:05 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Styria; Pharmboy
Eye color is more complex than that. Blue-eyed parents occasionally do have brown-eyed children. Also, there's a separate gene for central brown color, and eye color can change as you age too.

My mother always lamented that she would most likely be genetically 'doomed' to having only blue eyed children. She comes from a family of dark complected, dark or black haired, and dark brown or brown/green eyed people. My dad parents were one blue eyed, the other deep brown. She stood out, uncomfortably so to her, because of her very blue eyes and contrasting very dark hair. With a blue eyed husband, she knew brown eyes would be unlikely. Two siblings have blue eyes, mine are a deep green and my other sister's are deep gray with gold flecks. In addition, mine were just as blue as my blue eyed siblings when I was born but 'turned' into green by the time I was in the 5th grade, as photos show. I am the only one 'dark' one, too.

178 posted on 10/23/2006 2:48:51 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: pissant

Oh, shoot, 2 out of 3! I'm a brunette! ;-)


179 posted on 10/23/2006 2:49:49 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: fortunecookie

It was a joke. CGEB was a transvestite Freeper.

Brunettes are A-OK by me. Next best thing to a red head. ;o)


180 posted on 10/23/2006 2:51:46 PM PDT by pissant
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