New York State's Highest Court Court rules: Catholic Church must cover contraceptives

EITB Basque News ^ | October 22, 2006

[old republic]

What if the Catholic Church made all of its employees sign a waiver stating that while they were employed by the church that they waived any alleged right to contraception? A sort of Honor Code like those which can be found at many private organizations.

[pleikumud]

Makes me wonder who is dumber - the judges or the church.

[ZULU]

It should do neither.

It should appeal to the Supreme Court.

If that doesn't work, the Pope should sned Bush a clearly worded message: "If your government forces my church to subsidize murder in all its operations, every Catholic school and every Catholic hospital and chaarity will be shut down immediately. And the Federal, State and Local governments can bear the consequences."

[ZULU]

Then the Catholic Church should shut all its social and charitable operation in New York State: every school, every hospital, and every charity.

Then let the idiots in New York State live with the consequences or change the law.

[jiggyboy]

Maybe they could have the pharmacist sit in a car in the parking lot. If he doesn't want to provide his state-mandated service for a particular customer, he just waves him away. Seems to work just fine for the towelheads at the Minneapolis airport.

[KoRn]

"Why should the government have any say when it comes to what is covered under a company's insurance plan"

This is one of the reasons why health insurance is so dammed expensive. In many states insurance companies are forced by law to include coverage for certain things, even when it may not even be necessary for the policy holder.

[Nathan Zachary]

Exactly.

[Mach9]

Typical case of one bad law demanding another. If the church were able to limit hiring to Catholics, it wouldn't have the philosphical problem of denying contraceptive-coverage. Even so, full disclosure beforehand should cover all of this, but of course it doesn't.

[feedback doctor]

because Catholic Charities fails to meet the definition of a "religious organization" on several grounds.

I bet the same court would support a restriction on the Catholic Charities getting state money to help with a social program because they ARE a religious organization.

[Godwin1]

The Culture Wars. Increased Democratic/liberal power will lead to outright persecution of Christian believers within the next few years. In Democratic states like New York, the persecution is already underway. In New York City schools, Christian symbols and holidays may not be mentioned. Jewish and Muslim symbols may be represented and their holidays marked with fawning solicitude. The Democrats have declared war on Christian believers. Will believers notice before it too late? Elections matter.

[ClaireSolt]

One more reason why health insurance is prohibitively expensive. Judges and lawmakers should stay out of the insurance biz.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Why should the government mandate a list of things that must be covered by insurance? And why contraceptives?

The insurance I have now doesn't cover physical therapy to maintain range of motion in my joints, (as I become more and more disabled from rheumatoid arthitis), nor anodyne treatments for pain, nor gastric bypass, nor calcium or folic acid aupplements, nor other products and services which I require. Meanwhile, it does cover contraceptives, which I have never used.

Religious issues aside, why is the government micro-mis-managing my insurance coverage?

[ardara]

Does New York still have a Cardinal?

[guitarist]

It is a horrible development. But when people keep voting for social liberals (D) and (R)--Hillary, Rudy, Spitzer, etc.--you'd have to say it's amazing that things aren't worse. There are many of these developments that would have caused people to have a heart attack just a few short decades ago!

[Mrs. Don-o]

"Does New York still have a Cardinal?"

In the sense of a "vertebrate" Cardinal? We'll see.

In April Egan turns 75 at which point Canon law requires him to offer his retirement to the Pope. Some discontented (and anonymous) priests sent out a letter last week calling for Benedict XVI to accept the offer "sooner rather than later.” Moderately nteresting recent articles on Edward Cardinal Egan here, and here.

[BlessedBeGod]

This is a good one for Justice Scalia to take on.

I wonder if they'd make all the justices who are Catholics recuse themselves.

[BlessedBeGod]

It should appeal to the Supreme Court.

I wonder if they'd make all the justices who are Catholics recuse themselves.

[Norman Bates]

Sounds more like an exercise in political correctness to me. When I hear of such things, I can't help but disagree.

[ZULU]

If the COurts and State governmnet do't rectify this idiotic order, the Catholic CHurch should do exactly as I suggested. The impact of such an action would bring the politically correct idiots in Albany and Washington to their senses.

If the Muslims decided not to serve pork in any of the cafeterias in a Muslim school, they would never force them to do it.

[muawiyah]

Best course is to simply ignore the New York court. The Constitution says New York doesn't have any jurisdiction in this matter anyway.

Besides all of New York's judges are going to Hell anyway, right? Certainly not a bunch to respect.