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In spite of intimidation from APPO leftists, Oaxacan teachers vote to end strike (Translation)
El Universal ( Mexico City ) ^ | October 21, 2006 | Jorge Octavio Ochoa ( translated by self )

Posted on 10/22/2006 9:50:39 AM PDT by StJacques

They voted to resume classes in Oaxaca, teachers reveal

The consultation within the teacher's union showed a result of 26 thousand teachers in favor of a return to classes and 15 thousand against the proposal, according to sources within Section 22 of the SNTE1

Jorge Octavio Ochoa/Correspondent
El Universal (Mexico City)
Oaxaca City, Oaxaca
Saturday 21 October 2006

8:40 p.m.  According to sources in Section 22 of the SNTE who were within the assembly, the consultation among the teacher's union showed a result of 26 thousand teachers in favor of a return to classes and 15 thousand against the proposal.

What could remain to be decided in the assembly would be the date for the return to classes.

They are studying the possibility that the 30th of October could be the day when they begin reenrollment, which would last all through the celebration of the Day of the Dead, to formally return to classes November 3rd.

Nevertheless, those opposed to the return to classes are studying the possibility of asking for an investigative committee to establish the legality of the consultation carried out among the teachers.

Around 8:30 p.m. the plenary session of 725 delegates continued in closed session in the teacher's union hotel and it is anticipated that the debate will last past midnight.


Translator's Note:

1 The SNTE is the acronym for the Sindicato Nacional de Trabajadores de la Educación (National Union of Educational Workers), whose Section 22 (i.e. "Local 22") in Oaxaca organized the original strike this past May 22 which precipitated the current conflict, later leading to the organization of The Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO), which significantly radicalized the situation.

TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appo; appotrans; oaxaca; snte; stjtranslation
Well it was a tense day in Oaxaca City yesterday, as APPO did their best to intimidate the SNTE into voting down the proposal backed by Enrique Rueda Pacheco, the leader of Section 22 of the SNTE, to end the strike and reopen the schools.

First; the assembly did not start on time at 11:00 a.m. as originally planned. On another thread yesterday I posted a translation of an El Universal article (post #17) containing the details of APPO's intimidation of the teachers, which left in doubt the possibility that the proposal to return to classes announced by Rueda Pacheco would be approved. The assembly finally did get underway after 5:00 p.m., but the reports surfacing out of it made it look unlikely that any proposal other than one which was predicated upon the removal of Ulises Ruiz as Governor would be accepted. But evidently Rueda Pacheco and his supporters prevailed, as indicated by the above-stated result.

Hopefully; we will begin to see the dismantling of the protest machinery and a freeing of Oaxaca City this week. This protest has gone on far too long.
1 posted on 10/22/2006 9:50:41 AM PDT by StJacques
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To: StJacques

Very good news. Thanks for posting it.

2 posted on 10/22/2006 9:51:41 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
A Mexican Left Watch ping for you all.

Anyone wishing to be added to the ping list may contact me via Freepmail or post within this thread.
3 posted on 10/22/2006 9:51:42 AM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: bboop
"Very good news."

I agree, especially if it turns out to be true.

I am expecting APPO to attempt something to prevent the teachers from returning. The "call for an investigation" mentioned in the above article suggests to me that APPO may be preparing a justification for some kind of action on their part. As to what that might be, I don't know, but it would have to be aimed at Section 22 of the SNTE.

I would not be surprised to see APPO and Section 22 dissidents come forth very soon and declare the vote to end the strike invalid and to move to replace Rueda Pacheco and/or his entire leadership team or possibly even to declare the entirety of Section 22 dissolved and/or reformed under new auspices. They also might entertain the possibility of seizing the schools to prevent their reopening. That would be difficult, but APPO has a lot of "foot soldiers" to call upon, and they may even get help from the PRD in bringing in supporters from outside Oaxaca if they attempt that.

I'll believe this is over when it's over and not until then.
4 posted on 10/22/2006 10:00:16 AM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Thanks again. Paycheck trumps ideology. Not surprising though that one side clearly lost the vote, but now they want an investigation. What the left can't win at the ballot box they achieve through the courts.

5 posted on 10/22/2006 10:13:26 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: bboop
Sorry for multiple pings here, but there is conflicting news now being posted on the El Universal web site, which may render the article beginning this thread "non-informative.


El Universal is now reporting that Section 22 is going to conduct a second vote on Monday and Tuesday. Some of this appears to be in response to threats of violence from APPO. I'm going to quote an excerpted translation:

The consultation in the teacher's union aborted late after some 14 hours of uninterrupted debate, the assembly of Secton 22 of the SNTE determined to reject the result of the consultation carried out last Thursday and Friday and decided to summon a new consultation for the days of Monday and Tuesday and whose results will be made known Thursday. . .

In fact, on the outskirts of the building, a group of masked young men, armed with sticks and machetes, were preparing molotov bombs [i.e. "cocktails"] amid shouts of 'Rueda you moocher, how much was your ticket?' and 'the consultation, the consultation it's a hidden plot.'

The two accesses to the union building were blocked by the settled members of the Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca, while people shouted 'little bastards, we're going to tear out your ears'. . .


So it seems that APPO's threats of violence may be mor
6 posted on 10/22/2006 10:31:04 AM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
Ping to my #6 above.

I wasn't finished writing it and I meant to click "Preview" and clicked "Post" instead. I wanted to finish by saying that "it seems APPO's threats of violence may be more than just talk. And I wanted to ping you all on the post as well.
7 posted on 10/22/2006 10:34:21 AM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Well, agreed to that also. What the left can't achieve through the ballot box it achieves through the courts. What it can't achieve through the courts, it achieves through violence.

8 posted on 10/22/2006 10:36:49 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: All

Oaxaca, Saturday 21 October 2006-10-21


I hate to send out another e-mail distribution only three days after my last one, but I’m afraid the situation in Oaxaca is threatening to become ugly. The newspapers will write about the struggles within the Teachers Union, which look pretty serious right now, but this note is about an overt attempt to frighten a different group of people who were simply engaged in a dialogue. The Urgent Action alert from the Oaxaca Human Rights Network is posted on their website at . The translation is mine.

If you spread the word, and the four parties listed get enough e-mails and/or faxes, it may persuade them to think a military attack would be too costly in terms of world opinion. Thanks for whatever you can do.
All best wishes,


A Crime against the Workshops of the “Dialogue for Oaxaca”

The Oaxaca Human Rights Network has given prompt follow-up to the development and coordination of the workshops of the “DIALOGUE FOR OAXACA” whose purpose is to analyze and propose, by means of consensus, alternatives to the situation we are living in, with the participation of citizens, representatives of various organizations and social sectors, as well as municipal and agricultural authorities of Oaxaca State. This work began on 12 October this year.

As part of these activities various workshops for discussion and analysis are developing, however the state government is undertaking illegal acts of intimidation against the free development of this citizen dialogue.


On Friday 20 October 2006, in the course of the fourth session of the workshops of “Dialogue for Oaxaca”, taking place in the building of the Pastoral Center of the Diocese, at 702 Garcia Vigil Street, corner of Cosijopi Street, Center, Oaxaca, at about 7:00pm, the participants of the dialogue workshops noticed that the building in which we were meeting was surrounded by heavily armed judicial (now ministerial) and municipal police. They were dressed as civilians, with military haircuts, openly displaying high caliber arms at waist height, some of them wearing bullet-proof jackets. They had three vehicles (one white, one red, both Chevrolets and the other a recent model black van with polarized windows, all of them without license plates). What we succeeded in observing is that in those vehicles there were about 18 police. We also observed at that moment that they were communicating by means of radios and cellular phones that they carried.

Facing that environment, those of us participating in the dialogue workshops chose to leave in groups, some of us heading towards the zócalo [the main square in the center of the city], because that’s where the APPO encampment is. However, en route, some of us noticed that the police vehicles were followin us.

Because of this situation, the Human Rights Network of Oaxaca, as well as different organizations of civil society participating in the Dialogue workshops for Oaxaca:


That the Mexican State, specifically the Federal Government, guarantee the security of the various parties that are participating in the Dialogues for Oaxaca.

That the Mexican government take actions in order to end the strategically organized harrassment by the Oaxaca State government against the parties participating in the Dialogues for Oaxaca. The State government has been turning upside down our fundamental rights such as freedom to meet, freedom of expression, and above all crimes against our personal liberty.

9 posted on 10/22/2006 11:25:38 AM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigshit be upon him))
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To: StJacques; Enterprise

ObraGore's parallel presidency and government appear to be hitting a snag:

"Three of the country´s four PRD governors (or governors-elect), along with the PRD majority in the Mexico City legislature have now recognized Felipe Calderón as the country´s de-facto and de-jure president-elect. Nearly half of the PRD federal deputies and senators have rejected AMLO´s request that they continue contributing a portion of their salaries to the production of televised spots showing him to be Mexico´s "legitimate president.""

Couldn't have happened to a nicer person! :-)

10 posted on 10/22/2006 2:28:39 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: Founding Father
don't apologize,
But - I missed the Human rights network/Dialog in prior posts; maybe just overload, but who are these guys?

(I continue to believe that these events cannot end without violence because reconciliation and dialog were never goals of the perps)

11 posted on 10/22/2006 3:58:30 PM PDT by norton
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To: StJacques; DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; ...
Perhaps I may be overly desperate for good news from Oaxaca, but good news is exactly what I am making of your latest report and your links.

I predict that as soon as this simmers down a bit more, Calderón's government will throw out Ruiz on his ear (in a nice Mexican way, of course), and call for new, closely monitored elections in Oaxaca, in which Congress will acquiesce.

Maybe this Obrador Clymer can still be be finessed (triangulated?) into a manageable corner. It ain't gonna be easy. The Left in many countries, including our own, and Chile, has the unique ability to derail progress by convincing the less well mentally-equipped, which in any country can seem to effortlessly form a majority, that the progress being made is somehow leaving them out and mysteriously favoring others.

12 posted on 10/22/2006 5:28:21 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What does it matter if we’re all dead, as long as the French respect us.)
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To: Kenny Bunk; norton
I'm going to withhold further commentary on what may look like "good news" from Oaxaca until after I see how the second voting proceeds on Monday and Tuesday, though I suspect the SNTE is gravitating away from APPO.

norton made a really good comment -- yesterday? -- about (I'm paraphrasing from memory) "an animal being most dangerous when cornered," an observation I said then applied to APPO and some of the stuff I'm reading today reinforces that opinion of mine. APPO could do something truly radical this week. Just what, I don't know, but I'm expecting them to do something. Remember that I predicted this right here.
13 posted on 10/22/2006 5:33:37 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: Founding Father
It's funny how much organizing the so-called anarchist Salzman will do to prolong what seems to be his personal communist revolution. I'm not surprised at all that there are authorities watching this group of foreigners that are obviously breaking Mexican "law" by taking part in political activity. While there are interesting tidbits of information coming from this group, the tone of the discussion lately is starting to sound pretty desperate. Kinda funny sometimes. Couple of weeks ago they were actually talking about Zyclon B attacks.

The OSAG was recently "kicked out" of their regular meeting venue. Here's the message on the Oaxaca Lending Library's homepage:


With the political turmoil in Oaxaca, the Library is working hard to stay neutral and in compliance with Mexican law. For this reason, the Library has found itself verbally attacked and threatened from both sides--the left and the right.

The Board feels that our membership should be aware of these attacks and how we are responding to them. The crisis in Oaxaca has pushed many people, including expatriates, to the extreme left or the extreme right. A Mexican member of the Library told me this is happening in Oaxacan families too, pitting family members against each other. Most of us are old enough to remember how the Viet Nam War polarized Americans against one another. We got through that difficult time and so shall the Oaxacaños survive this crisis.

For several weeks, a group was meeting at the Library to discuss the situation in Oaxaca. Because the discussions were political in nature, the Board checked with Mark Leyes, U.S. Consular Agent in Oaxaca, to confirm that this was not violating Mexican law. He agreed that discussions were acceptable but activism would not be.

A few weeks ago, we received a letter from Linda Anderson (possibly a pseudonym) complaining about"... self described anarchist-communist activist George Salzman," whose views of the situation had been posted on the Crisis page on the Library website which had been set up to provide personal views of the crisis to members and friends outside of Oaxaca. She continued that "The 'report' is little more than propaganda for Mr.Salzmans's political meddling in Oaxaca and provides support for the activities of the APPO."

Salzman's group, Oaxaca Study-Action Group, had invited Stephen Dunifer to address the group. The title of his presentation was "Project TUPA (Transmitters uniting the peoples of the Americas) and Community Radio". In more peaceful times, this topic would have been innocuous but in the present situation it wasn't. Salzman was advised that the speaker could not meet at the Library and the Crisis page was removed from the website (other viewpoints of the crisis by Janet Stanley and Bill Pumphrey had been posted).

The Board decided that the OSAG group should not meet at the Library as it was politically active and did not follow the Library's policy against meetings of political or partisan groups. Salzman met with several members of the Library and the Library Board to protest this decision. At that meeting he accused the Board members of being "Karl Rove" conservatives and threatened to make the group's exclusion "an international incident." The Board stands firm in its prohibition against OSAG or any other politically active group meeting on library premises.

After this confrontation, we received an email from Col. Johnathan Poprik Ret. who referred to the OSAG group as a "radical pinko communist group" and he threatened "If you do not comply with the following demands (for names of OSAG participants among other demands), two Mexican citizens will file a complaint against the library and ask for revocation of all rights and licenses necessary for the library to operate in Mexico. Also each participant or member of the library will be called in and investigated by local authorities and immigration. If evidence proves that they were participating in meetings of the illegal group against the Government, they will undergo deportation hearings."

The Board chose not to respond to Poprik as he is not a member and his charges were NOT BASED ON FACTS.

Rest assured that the Board members collectively and individually are aware of the prohibition against participation in Mexican politics AND WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THE LIBRARY NEUTRAL AND COMPLIANT WITH MEXICAN LAW. We ask for your support and understanding in these difficult times as we do our best to steer the Library through these troubled waters.
14 posted on 10/22/2006 7:41:42 PM PDT by DaoPian
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To: StJacques; norton
APPO could do something truly radical this week. Just what, I don't know, but I'm expecting them to do something. Remember that I predicted this right here.

So frustrating interpreting from afar! I am hoping (and I am well aware that hope is the most worthless of the emotions) that APPO will see at least some of the handwriting on the wall and make just enough fuss and a gesture just grand enough to preserve face.

Speaking of frustrating, it seems to me that news from the central government in the DF seems to be minimal. Are they really content to let SNTE tack center stage for now?

Thanks to you all for the info and for keeping this on an even keel.

15 posted on 10/22/2006 9:41:38 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What does it matter if we’re all dead, as long as the French respect us.)
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