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L.A. County union workers win largest pay increase in decades (15.5% pay increse & health benefits)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 10/22/06 | Troy Anderson

Posted on 10/22/2006 8:56:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

This is exactly why I hate unions.

They are greedy and after they manage to intimidate the city or other employers into giving them what they want .. it ends up bankrupting the company or the city.

Good going unions .. you must be proud .. you gained all these wages and when the city runs out of money and starts laying off all those employees - ARE YOU GOING TO PICK UP THE TAB AND KEEP PAYING THEM ..??

This is the very reason the car mfgs went bankrupt - they couldn't continue paying these outrages wages and benefits.

A company goes into business to make a profit - SO THEY CAN EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS - when all the profits are eaten up by wages and benefits - THERE IS NO EXPANSION - there is only downsizing and loss of jobs.

How come people don't get this ..??


21 posted on 10/22/2006 11:11:05 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: NormsRevenge

California is an expensive place to live. Wages need to be much higher just to survive there. Even a nurse starting at over $60K would not have enough income to buy a modest house! How can one state have such a huge economic disconnect from the rest of the country? $30K per year is below the poverty level? Good Grief!


22 posted on 10/22/2006 11:18:09 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The $75-$375/month child care credit is uncalled for, and unfair to the employees that don't use it. 10% increase in health care contribution doesn't tell us anything, since we don't know what the county contributes now.

If the employees recieved 5% total increase over the last three years, and are going to receive 15.5% over the next three, that equals 20.5% over six years. That's a bit over 3.4% per year. How much more, if any, is that than the increase in the cost of living?


23 posted on 10/22/2006 1:13:33 PM PDT by pelicandriver
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To: Nathan Zachary

Agree with ya!


24 posted on 10/22/2006 2:47:03 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: NormsRevenge
15%? Good grief!

Well at least Arnold *tried* to loosen the death grip the public employee unions had last year but the voters didn't turn out for him.

25 posted on 10/22/2006 3:20:38 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Arnold-McClintock-YES 85 Parents Notified-YES 90 Eminent Domain-SanDiego:NO A,YES B & C)
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To: NormsRevenge
"We believe this is sustainable..."

Isn't that what GM said back in the 80's?

26 posted on 10/22/2006 3:28:08 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: NormsRevenge
They had to accept wage freezes and watching the buying power of their money get eaten away by inflation. Considering the price of home, gas food and utilities - people making the median income in California do qualify for food stamps. If we want the best people to keep working for government in Los Angeles County, they have to be paid what they are worth.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

27 posted on 10/22/2006 4:23:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

LOL!


28 posted on 10/22/2006 4:26:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: doc30
Yes, here it is. In the rest of the country 30K a year would be a decent income. Not in California. One can burn through that money in a year.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

29 posted on 10/22/2006 4:26:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nmh

The only people who will be able to afford to live in Southern California - from San Diego to LA - will be State workers. And I'm not trying to be funny.


30 posted on 10/22/2006 4:27:50 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: pelicandriver
We're not talking about MANAGEMENT. Very few county workers earn $100,000 or more per year. Most of them - cops, mechanics, maintenance staff, medical personnel and social workers are just middle class folks who struggle to get by. They aren't made of money. For the last decade, they accepted wage freezes and benefit cuts and the value of what they made was eaten away by inflation. The money they get in the new contract will barely begin to make them whole. And they do work hard to serve the public.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

31 posted on 10/22/2006 4:30:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
A lot are making $25,000 to $30,000 a year, which for a family of four is poverty wages

Just a mind boggling wow!!!

Those kinds of wages in Honduras will pay for a house, full maid service and a full time grounds keeper with plenty of cash left over........

Poverty my ass..........Sounds like the city officials just bought themselves another 4 years of office at tax payers expense....LOL!!!

32 posted on 10/22/2006 4:31:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Cure for liberal stupidity: Louisville Slugger, apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: Hildy
No - the only people who could afford to live here are the ulra-rich. I live in a $500,000 starter home and I have few takers for it. Even with incentives, its daunting to get people into that kind of home here and I live in a middle class suburb. Not to loong ago, only the Rich & Famous mansions commanded that kind of price tag. A lifetime ago.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

33 posted on 10/22/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Board of Supervisors and Los Angeles County's largest union have reached a contract deal that will give more than 50,000 workers the largest salary and merit increases in decades

Real easy to give these big boondoggle pay days when it comes out of the public treasury. Unions do NOT belong in government.

If this was the private sector without a bottomless wallet they would be forcing the business to close it's doors.

34 posted on 10/22/2006 4:35:16 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The median state income is $34,000K a year. The median home price in California is $550,000K. Do the math.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

35 posted on 10/22/2006 4:35:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
DEMOCRATS? (Eddie Murphy laugh)....
Is Mexicrats a word?.... LoL...
36 posted on 10/22/2006 4:40:55 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: nmh

Everything in California is so deeply disconnected from reality that I really cannot evaluate the wisdom of this contract. Given the ridiculous housing prices, desperate overcrowding of decaying infrastructure, escalated cost of living, excessive taxation, and paucity of common sense, you couldn't get me to consider moving to most of California even if you offered to quadruple my income. Perhaps southern California now experiences inflation (5% per year--this is a three-year contract) to a degree virtually absent in the remainder of the country. I'd say that the county's still ripping off its workforce--but then again, if I lived in California as a pauper, I would have joined the millions of American conservatives fleeing the state.


37 posted on 10/22/2006 4:44:08 PM PDT by dufekin (The New York Times: an enemy espionage agency with a newsletter of enemy propaganda)
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To: dufekin
As soon as my home is sold, I'm fleeing California and never looking back. Its gotten absurd here. I might stay if someone offered me a ten figure salary - otherwise fudgitaboutit.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

38 posted on 10/22/2006 4:47:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Do the math.

Don't have to, do the move......

39 posted on 10/22/2006 5:03:54 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Cure for liberal stupidity: Louisville Slugger, apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: goldstategop
Amen. I did the same thing eighteen months ago. Sold the house, And drove across the country with my wife and two cats. No jobs lined up, didn't know anyone in the area, not even a place to live. We ended up north of Raleigh, NC and absolutely LOVE it here!
40 posted on 10/22/2006 5:15:15 PM PDT by The Chid
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