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Schroeder: Bush's faith raised suspicion (how some anti-Christian nuts see Christians)
APes ^ | 10-21-2006 | Melissa Eddy

Posted on 10/21/2006 4:37:46 PM PDT by unspun

BERLIN - Ex-Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, whose second term was marked by vehement opposition to the war in Iraq, described in an advance copy of his memoirs how he was suspicious of President Bush's constant references to his Christian faith.

In an excerpt of his book, "Decisions: My Life in Politics" published in the German weekly Der Spiegel Saturday, Schroeder discusses the key political choices that marked his seven-year term in office, including the decision to call early elections and his split with Bush over the Iraq war.

"I am anything but anti-American," Schroeder told Spiegel in an interview to accompany the excerpt of the more than 500-page book that goes on sale Thursday.

In it Schroeder, who led the Social Democrats to power in 1998, recalls the tears in his eyes as he watched television footage of people jumping from the burning World Trade Center on Sept. 11.

He knew Germany would have to react.

"It was important to me that Germany fulfill its requirements as an ally" of the U.S., he wrote. "It was also fully clear to me that this could also mean the German army's participation in an American military mission."

Several months later, during Bush's 2002 visit to Berlin, Schroeder wrote he was surprised at what he described as Bush's "exceptionally mild" speech to the German parliament.

While meetings with Bush at that time were friendly, Schroeder said he could not reconcile himself with the feeling that religion was the driving force behind many of Bush's political decisions.

"What bothered me, and in a certain way made me suspicious despite the relaxed atmosphere, was again and again in our discussions how much this president described himself as 'God-fearing,'" Schroeder wrote, adding he is a firm believer in the separation of church and state.

Schroeder accused some elements in U.S. as being hypocritical when it comes to secularism in government.

"We rightly criticize that in most Islamic states, the role of religion for society and the character of the rule of law are not clearly separated," Schroeder wrote. "But we fail to recognize that in the USA, the Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the Bible have similar tendencies." ___

Associated Press Writer Claus-Peter Tiemann contributed to this report from Hamburg, Germany.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: antichristian; bush; christian; christophobia; europe; germany; schroeder; secularhumanism
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1 posted on 10/21/2006 4:37:47 PM PDT by unspun
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To: unspun

Germany has shown us just what kinds of things happen when you divorce faith from the public square.


2 posted on 10/21/2006 4:42:01 PM PDT by Mrs.Z (Mrs.Z)
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To: unspun

Spoken like a true humanist, er, socialist, eh, herr Schroeder?>


3 posted on 10/21/2006 4:43:46 PM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: unspun
"But we fail to recognize that in the USA, the Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the Bible have similar tendencies."

Give me a break! How absolutely outrageous!

4 posted on 10/21/2006 4:46:09 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: unspun

This isn't surprising at all, Europe is forcefully secular.


5 posted on 10/21/2006 4:46:30 PM PDT by nofaceveils
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To: unspun
"It was important to me that Germany fulfill its requirements as an ally" of the U.S.,

Um, yeah, about that.....

6 posted on 10/21/2006 4:46:39 PM PDT by bad company ([link:www.truthout.org/docs_2006/083006J.shtml | The Path to 9/11])
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To: unspun
Gerhard Schroeder always struck me and most other Americans as some sort of erzatz Nazi who wasn't quite aware of what life in America is like.

In fact, he was very much like the visiting cousin from Deutschland who complains and moans the whole time he is here, even though he's chowing down on pork tenerlloin every day, and who is not happy until he is winging his way back home where "every zing izt perfeckt".

7 posted on 10/21/2006 4:48:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: unspun

Herr Schro can bite our collective American sac.


8 posted on 10/21/2006 4:52:32 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: unspun

The Euro-peons will keep voicing their concerns about Christian nuts, right up until the day they are faced with a convert-or-die ultimatim from the islamists.


9 posted on 10/21/2006 4:52:43 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

They will convert because all the alpha male dna long left the old world. Dhimmi future.


10 posted on 10/21/2006 4:54:04 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: unspun
"I am anything but anti-American," Schroeder told Spiegel.

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11 posted on 10/21/2006 4:55:05 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

I think a lot of them will.....


12 posted on 10/21/2006 4:55:22 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
The Euro-peons will keep voicing their concerns about Christian nuts, right up until the day they are faced with a convert-or-die ultimatim from the islamists.

Yeah, and then it will be You know what? Maybe mixing religion and politics isn't such a bad idea after all, especially if it results in my head staying attached to my shoulders.

13 posted on 10/21/2006 4:56:08 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: Steely Tom; Cicero; All
Makes one wonder if Western Europeans have ever had any education about Western Civilization.
14 posted on 10/21/2006 4:57:41 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Mrs.Z

Yes, sadly people totally lose their moral compass.


15 posted on 10/21/2006 4:59:18 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: unspun

this only represents 'some' anti-christians? Sounds more like the entire Left and the MSM along with Europe and the Islamo world.


16 posted on 10/21/2006 4:59:52 PM PDT by bpjam (Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaida - The Religion of Peace)
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To: Rummyfan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576479/posts


17 posted on 10/21/2006 5:00:08 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Jorge

Wait until their secular-humanist-feminists drive their young men into the arms of islamofascists.


19 posted on 10/21/2006 5:03:54 PM PDT by Mrs.Z (Mrs.Z)
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To: unspun

Secularism IS a religion, and many secularists are more fanatical in their beliefs than those they accuse of religious fanaticism.


20 posted on 10/21/2006 5:04:45 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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