[MaineVoter2002]

All because Abraham's wife thought she was too old to have chaildren

[redheadtoo]

when a person stops believing in organized religion they don't then believe in nothing, but begin to believe in anything

In other words, their minds are so open their brains fall out.

[fso301]

how exactly do you get rational post-secular westerners to buy into an idea like that?

A post-secular westerner may likely be islamic

[John Lenin]

[bvw]

Didn't *wait* til some possible future moment to read this most excellent essay, which sets things down pretty dang well, thank you!

I would advise all who hobble along marking this and that for some future read to hurry back and read this NOW.

[cookcounty]

I have muslim friends, but what bugs me about Islam, is that it makes some people (a minority, but a significant minority) totally nuts, and makes the rest of them week as water. The crazies take over, while the rest os the islamic world surrenders to a sort of "Dhimmitude" of their own, whereby the nastiest people rise to the top by intimidation and violence.