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To: reformedliberal

"Right now, I just look at this one and recognize that I am tired, not just as in lacking in energy, but also as in "sick and tired"."

Yes, it does wear you down. Which I suppose is the terrorist/insurgent strategy from the get-go, they know Americans are impatient and result-oriented and so if they can just keep at it for long enough, the US will 'give up'.

At one level, it's understandable that many American want to throw in the towel. On another, it is frightening. We tolerated 400,000 deaths to win WWII. Iraq is only 3,000 in the biggest battle of the global war on terror, a battle where this year we have killed a large number of Al Qaeda leaders in Iraq. Not just Zarqawi but quite a few others.

If we cannot toelrate this much lower level of casualties, have we gone 'soft'? Or is it a direct reaction to the political situation - democrats will demagogue anything while there is a Republican in the White House?
Either way, this is troubling, and it would be good to 'keep our heads about us' as we think the right way forward.

There are ways to win in Iraq... see here:
http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/

"FWIW, I see the endless sectarian conflict everywhere, including in domestic politics, as futile. Eventually, someone will rise to the top of the rubble heap and just what will they have? Nothing but the shards of what they have destroyed."

Certainly, the violence is futile from our perspective, but we use reason and common sense. Their are darker and stranger belief systems held by the Jihadists and insurgents, a death cult almost...
I said in another thread that too many Arabs Muslims prefer Islamicist misery to pro-western joy. That is not just about Iraq, but also a good description of much of the self-defeating and masochistic anti-Americanism in the Arab world - Palestinians, Al Qaeda, Iranian Mullahs, Lebanon, etc.


92 posted on 10/20/2006 8:01:02 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: WOSG
... too many Arabs Muslims prefer Islamicist misery to pro-western joy.



An essential truth, IMO. I agree that Islam is a death cult;
it is a supremacist, warrior death cult.

I don't know if we have just gotten soft or if it is even tied to casualties. I do think we all, for the past 38 years, have been relentlessly inculcated with the need to think that we are good and to also be perceived as being good. This makes us susceptible to peer pressure. When a sizable minority of your peers define *good* as *pacifist*, you can be in trouble when the bullies come to town.

I don't want to throw in the towel. I recognize that this is going to continue for the rest of my life. I want to win. Everyone needs the collective strength of their fellows at some time in any struggle. I think we all have periods in which we *go wobbly*, if only for a little while.

Never in my wildest dreams, however, did I think America would find herself in an existential fight and discover that 20%+ of my fellow Americans didn't think we deserved to win and would actively impede us at every turn. I can find that absolutely enervating.
95 posted on 10/20/2006 8:31:19 PM PDT by reformedliberal ("Eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years." Ayatollah Khomeini)
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