Tancredo has an obligation

Then Rove had Bush go out and make speeches using code words to demonize conservatives who opposed his America-busting immigration plans.

Apparently Rove has hired Vincente Fox from before the election of 2000 then to echo the madness...

41 posted on 10/19/2006 2:39:55 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)

"A time to kick and scream. A time to be pragmatic."

I see it differently from the Denver Post:

A time to stand for the rule of law rather than a time for appeasement of lawbreakers. A time to secure our borders and control immigration rather than a time for flooding our nation with low-skilled hoards of illegal invaders.

42 posted on 10/19/2006 2:55:20 PM PDT by reelfoot

I got to play the lottery tonight. If the Post can endorse Tancredo, I can win.

43 posted on 10/19/2006 4:17:53 PM PDT by art_rocks

"So, did Tancredo's latest check clear into your bank account?"

Why yes it did. How did you know? I can't believe I got paid a thousand dollars just for this.

How are things at the Bill Winter camp?

44 posted on 10/19/2006 4:45:08 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.votegraf.org/)

>I stopped about a week ago.<

What took you so long? (grin)

45 posted on 10/19/2006 4:55:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)

To: 1035rep; NapkinUser

1035rep, show me a poll, taken here on FR, that shows anything but the majority of FReepers solidly against Bush/Rove's plan for providing a path to citizenship for the illegal aliens in the USA now or ever.

Show me a poll, taken here on FR, that shows anything but that a majority of FReepers believe that Bush/Rove's plan is nothing more than just another amnesty.

"Why hang around to make themselves and everyone else miserable?"

Think maybe it's time the minority of FReepers in favor of the Bush/Rove amnesty for illegal aliens plan to consider finding a new site?

Think maybe they should be the FReepers to follow your advice?

46 posted on 10/19/2006 4:59:20 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)

November 8, the guy is ....Demonized by the Democrat wonk types and blogs for being a "genius" with his sneaky, un-wonkish strategy of making sure Republican voters get absentee ballot applications.

From thy keyboard to God's Inbox.

47 posted on 10/19/2006 6:43:14 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What does it matter if we’re all dead, as long as the French respect us.)

Think maybe it's time the minority of FReepers in favor of the Bush/Rove amnesty for illegal aliens plan to consider finding a new site?

Think maybe they should be the FReepers to follow your advice?

The post you are referring to are Jim Robinson's posts. So I don't think he will be looking for another site....SINCE HE OWNS THIS ONE. I suppose you could ask him though LOL!!!

48 posted on 10/19/2006 7:49:41 PM PDT by 1035rep

We didn't support Tancredo's re-election bid in 2004, preferring challenger Joanna Conti who would have served without Tancredo's polarizing persona and single-item agenda.

Well, if these people were not brain dead they'd know this "single-item" effects many others.

49 posted on 10/19/2006 9:08:11 PM PDT by Razz Barry

Uh, last I saw, there were a number of posts wherein Jim opposes W's Amnesty crap. So his degree of support is hardly mindless. And look at the Free Republic Credo...which, sad to say, definitely and irrebuttably, is not W's philosophy:

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50 posted on 10/19/2006 9:41:22 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)

I think your confused. I never mentioned anything about illegal immigration or amnesty. Never said anyone had mindless support either. SO, I have no idea what your talking about.

51 posted on 10/19/2006 9:56:26 PM PDT by 1035rep

"He'll need to show flexibility if he truly expects to solve the problem."

He will need to show NO flexibility, or he will become the "problem"

52 posted on 10/19/2006 11:11:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)

53 posted on 10/19/2006 11:11:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)

"Rove is a genius for .....
October 20, the guy is a genius. November 8, the guy is ?????"

Rove is quite possibly the worst hack who ever worked for the RNC.

54 posted on 10/19/2006 11:15:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)

55 posted on 10/19/2006 11:15:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)

As for immigration, that was genius. He understood the white liberal mindset very well. He, Bolten, Norquist, whomever, set up the false dilemma of "comprehensive" immigration reform. Rove "tipped" reporters that "conservative republicans house members" were going to be the problem. Twice, and all told because the reporters like to brag about their access. Then Rove had Bush go out and make speeches using code words to demonize conservatives who opposed his America-busting immigration plans. The Dems and MSM fell for it hook, line and sinker. Even Howard Dean jumped on the boat, giddy with the chance to define himself as sensitive and against conservatives. To this day they cast snooty remarks about those who call the Senate plan an "amnesty" even though Bush/Rove have relented and used the A word, "that word" that troubles Rove so, because he knows Bush lied.

So, Bush had no hand in this? Every time Bush goes around demanding "comprehensive reform" it's just a gimmick? Is Rove behind every tactic Bush uses? Is Rove really the president, then?

56 posted on 10/20/2006 4:21:40 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)

You're the one that reposted the advice. Obviously, you agree with it. Why don't you follow it yourself?

57 posted on 10/20/2006 4:34:13 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)

They only endorsed him because they know he is going to win.

BTW, it sounded more like they endorsed Winter than Tancredo.

58 posted on 10/20/2006 5:23:05 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (Don't be a "Cut and Run" Republican. INCREASE the Republican majority! VOTE 'R')

An endorsement from the left-wing Denver Post. I did not see that coming.

It is interesting. But Tancredo had best not look at it as a gift: they're gonna crucify him if he doesn't move from yapping to doing.

59 posted on 10/20/2006 5:26:36 PM PDT by r9etb

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