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Cult leader says he's too obese for execution
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| October 18, 2006
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Posted on 10/19/2006 11:57:00 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: rattrap
Sorry, I just read the rest of the article.
He is an opportunistic f-tard trying to exploit a loophole.
Kill him as he killed.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:03:46 PM PDT
by
Mrs Ivan
(English, and damned proud of it.)
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The key here--requiring medical personnel would outlaw lethal injection by fiat, as the AMA forbids its members from actively participating in capital punishment The lack of trained medical personnel increases the risk of side effects, like infection, premature baldness, and communicable diseases. /s
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:03:48 PM PDT
by
mbynack
(Retired USAF SMSgt)
To: Westbrook
He should just kill himself like the guy in Texas.
Im a fan of the "not too fat for a bullet" argument..
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:03:57 PM PDT
by
Kilo0311
(KILO COMPANY 3/25; We fought in Iraq so your kid could party in college)
To: Mr. Mojo
Put him in a cell with Richard Simmons and Oprah he will kill himself soon enough.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:04:35 PM PDT
by
YdontUleaveLibs
(Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
To: rattrap
ok, so let me get this straight..if someone goes out, commits mass murder and mayhem, goes go jail and GAINS 300 lbs., and becomes obese, they can't be put to death..did I get that right?? if that's the case, there's gonna be a whole bunch of people on death row orderin triple meals 3 times a day..
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:04:49 PM PDT
by
GeorgiaDawg32
(At 53, I'm the life of every party I go to, even if it lasts till 8 p.m...)
To: rattrap
Lundgren's sentence stems from a conviction for the fatal shooting of a family of five in 1989. The family, which included three children, were killed while they stood in a pit dug inside his barn in northeast Ohio. Yeah, I'm really concerned that this might cause him pain.
They should bring back hanging.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:05:01 PM PDT
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: Ouderkirk
Better use something with substantially more penetration. The fat rolls might lodge the bullet before it found its mark.
Just about anything in the .308 cal should do the trick.
Of course you could just feed him a few dozen Krispy Kream donuts with a gallonm of A&W to wash it down with.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:05:13 PM PDT
by
Delta 21
( MKC USCG - ret)
To: rattrap
Lundgren, 56, said he is at even greater risk of experiencing pain and suffering during the procedure than other inmates because he is overweight and diabetic.
So its ok that his victims experienced pain and died but he shouldn't? This is such BS, put him in a pit and let a firing squad shoot him. I think he should feel pain, matter of fact it should hurt to die if you have committed such heinous crimes.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:05:43 PM PDT
by
pandoraou812
( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Hell, find a junkie to administer justice, they know how to find veins.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:05:47 PM PDT
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: rattrap
I'd like to be the executioner for some of the more despicable criminals sentenced to death. I'd like to whisper in his ear as I'm strapping him down, "I'm not giving you the first drug, the one that knocks you out. I'm going straight to the one that makes your muscles unable to function. So you'll still be conscience while unable to breath, move, yell. It'll take several minutes for you to suffocate. Enjoy."
Even then I wouldn't consider lethal injection a "cruel and unusual" way for these people to die.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:06:08 PM PDT
by
Jaysun
(Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
To: Cardhu
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:06:27 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
To: rattrap
"Opponents have argued that the use of the lethal injection is unconstitutionally cruel and painful and that the procedure is often carried out without specifically trained medical personnel present."Solution
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:06:45 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
To: rattrap
No way this man should be made to suffer for murdering a whole family. /sarcasm
To: rattrap
Looks like hanging would be the quickest way to off a fatty.
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The key here--requiring medical personnel would outlaw lethal injection by fiat, as the AMA forbids its members from actively participating in capital punishment.
I know that in Texas they like to have a doctor on hand to pronounce the man dead. This way they can avoid having to do an autopsy. But the death sentence is actually carried out by others.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:07:56 PM PDT
by
Jaysun
(Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
To: ArrogantBustard
Take him for an airplane ride ... shove his fat arse out the door at around 20kft ... without a parachute.MOAB - Massive Obese A$$hole Bomb
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:07:58 PM PDT
by
Sax
To: rattrap; All
FYI, the Japanese method:
http://www.jca.apc.org/stop-shikei/epamph/dpinjapan_e.html
5.2 Process leading to the execution
5.2.1 Before the execution
The prisoners, their family members, or their counsels will never be informed in advance of an execution. On the morning of the execution, prisoners will be called suddenly and informed that "the sentence of execution will now be carried out," and will be brought to the execution chamber. Prisoners will not permitted to say goodbye to their family members.
They will not be able to call their counsels and will not be given opportunities to have legal assistance.
The fact that executions are not known in advance makes the prisoners' condition of mind unstable. These days, executions are carried out 6 or 7 years after confirmation of the death penalty sentences. This situation forces prisoner who have spent 6 or 7 years after confirmation of their sentences to live each and every day in dread of the day the execution will be carried out. Some people are executed even though they are appealing for a retrial. Even if prisoners are appealing for amnesty, they may be informed of their executions at the same time they receive notice of rejection of their appeal.
If prison officers stop in front of a cell in the morning, it means the last moments of the prisoner's life have arrived. Even if prison officers do not stop this morning, who knows about tomorrow? In that case, we may say that each new day merely gives prisoners a 24-hour postponement of execution. Such a life continues until the day of execution.
5.2.2 Execution of the death penalty
At the execution chamber, the authorities perform certain ceremonies. A few minutes are given to the prisoners for writing their will and for saying goodbye to their chaplains.
Then they are handcuffed from behind, blindfolded, and brought onto the hanging place, whose floor is split in two. They are tied up while on their knees to prevent wounding the body in case they struggle. At the same time the hanging rope is placed around the prisoner's neck.
At a signal, the floor splits into two, and prisoners fall into the opening. Since the length of the rope has been adjusted in advance to take account of the height of prisoners, they continue cramping until their death, suspended in the air some 15 centimeters above the underground floor.
In the underground room, a doctor is standing by to take the prisoner's pulse and listen for a heartbeat. It is said that 15 to 20 minutes are needed to die.
After the execution, the prisoner's family will be informed about it. If within 24 hours the family asks to have the body, it is possible to comply. There have been 39 executions since March 1993 when the execution of death penalty was restarted, but on only two occasions were the bodies taken back. Mr. Norio NAGAYAMA was executed in August 1997. His lawyer wanted to take the body, but the authorities had it cremated and only allowed his bones to be taken. It is presumed that there were traces of NAGAYAMA's final struggling.
Belongings of the prisoner are returned to his family, except for "diary or documents as such" after confirmation of his death sentence. There is no way to identify belongings, however, other than a "diary."
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:08:11 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: rattrap
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"I like big butts!"
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:08:27 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
To: Mrs Ivan
" ... but he's too overweight for a bullet in the back of the head?"
Wouldn't think that would be painful, given that he wouldn't have any brains left to notice with.
You know, there is a way to kill someone without pain, but no one seems to be interested. I read of an industrial accident involving two techs working for NASA that killed one, and the one that survived woke up in the hospital, without any memory of what had happened. They had entered the hatch of the shuttle's external fuel tank, which was at that point filled with nitrogen gas. The survivor said that he just went out like a blown match. Bent over, crawled into the tank - woke up in the hospital. Sounds like a nice, clean, painless death to me.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:08:30 PM PDT
by
Fatuncle
(Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
To: dfwgator
I wonder if he'll order a Diet Coke for his last meal?If he does, he will gain weight. Has anyone ever seen a heavy person drink anything other than a Diet Coke. I'm convinced Diet Coke makes you fat.
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posted on
10/19/2006 12:08:51 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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