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CA: Atty. general says GOP campaign linked to intimidating letter
AP - Press Enterprise ^ | October 18, 2006

Posted on 10/19/2006 6:53:53 AM PDT by calcowgirl

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1 posted on 10/19/2006 6:53:54 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Why do I get the feeling that this is going to be tracked back to some democrats?


2 posted on 10/19/2006 6:56:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: calcowgirl

Let's see... Headline and first sentence say "have linked to Republicans". Fourth paragraph "We BELIEVE". So do you have proof or is this just an 'accidentally' misleading headline?


3 posted on 10/19/2006 6:59:02 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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I've read it a couple of times and I'm still not finding the link.


4 posted on 10/19/2006 7:00:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: calcowgirl
First, if true, Nguyen is an idiot and needs to go back to the Rat party. (Yes, he ran against Rohrabacher as a Democrat 2 years ago).

Second, when will just one of these newspapers publish the whole letter? Based on my translation of the partial letter published by La Opinion, the first line reads: "This letter is being sent because you recently registered to vote. If you are a citizen of the United States, you are requested to participate in the democratic process of voting." Hardly hateful or intimidating.

Lastly, I find it amazing that people are calling the letters "racist" and calling for prosecution as a hate crime, but there is no outrage about the death threats received by the leader of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform whose letterhead was forged in this stupid scheme.

5 posted on 10/19/2006 7:01:00 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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What law is broken to state facts about who can and who cannot vote?

I am not even talking about this letter cause it appears to be a method of 'FREE' advertising for one campaign and against another. While liberals premeditated in outing Foley for the sole purpose of suppressing the vote, this letter appears to fit their standard operating procedures.
6 posted on 10/19/2006 7:03:52 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: cripplecreek

I think it probably will be tracked back to a "Republican" (who was a democrat 2 years ago).

There is more detail in the LA Times and OC Register versions of the story but they were too hard to excerpt.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-letter19oct19,0,6413307.story?coll=la-story-footer

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/state/article_1324403.php


7 posted on 10/19/2006 7:04:21 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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The letter, written in Spanish, tells recipients: "You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time."

A federal DA was on Fox & Friends this morning about this letter. He claimed that immigrants can register to vote and, in fact, can vote. The problem is that only U.S. citizens can vote. Legal immigrants cannot vote unless they've become citizens. No one is bothering to make that point and it is very important.

8 posted on 10/19/2006 7:05:10 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Just mythoughts

The letter mixed facts with some false statements, allegedly in an effort to intimidate voters. i'm not sure exactly which laws were broken. Had they not included falsehoods, I don't think there would have been a problem.


9 posted on 10/19/2006 7:07:58 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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"You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time."

What's so intimidating about a cold, hard fact?

10 posted on 10/19/2006 7:10:18 AM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Tancredo/Paul 2008)
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What's so intimidating about a cold, hard fact?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. If they are legal and citizens they are perfectly within their right to vote.

However, Sanchez (D) has already alluded to the fact that illegals should get out and vote. I don't blame the guy at all.

11 posted on 10/19/2006 7:13:29 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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Everyone is focusing on that second paragraph of the letter. I'd like to see the whole letter! No one is acknowledging the first paragraph which says:
Se le envía esta carta debido a que recientemente fue registrado para votar. Si ud. es ciudadano de los Estados Unidos, se le ruega a que participe en el proceso democrático de la votación.

My translation:

This letter is being sent because you recently registered to vote. If you are a citizen of the United States, you are requested to participate in the democratic process of voting.


12 posted on 10/19/2006 7:13:44 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time.

What's so intimidating about a cold, hard fact?

Well, the bold part is not true. Millions of immigrants are citizens and eligible to vote.

13 posted on 10/19/2006 7:16:58 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Threatening but accurate??? (except for the tracking part, which they should do).

Exactly what crime has been committed here?


14 posted on 10/19/2006 7:17:07 AM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: calcowgirl

The articles don't mention what mis-statements were made in the letter, nor does it mention what laws were broken. Surely it cannot be illegal to tell people that it is illegal for non-citizens to vote. My guess is that the only thing illegal about the letter is the letterhead.


15 posted on 10/19/2006 7:17:37 AM PDT by Eva
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" "We believe it's linked to a particular Republican campaign," Barankin said in a telephone interview from Sacramento. "We have identified where we believe the mailing list was obtained." "

STFU if you don't KNOW.
16 posted on 10/19/2006 7:18:59 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: CrawDaddyCA

"You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time."

What's so intimidating about a cold, hard fact?
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"If you residence in this country is illegal OR YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT."

As someone who came to this country and became a citizen, i could see where it could be read that anyone not born American, (i.e., an immigrant), and now a citizen, could see this as being told they couldn't vote.


17 posted on 10/19/2006 7:19:38 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: calcowgirl
The letter is correct in that only immigrants who are naturalized U.S. citizens can vote, but many of its other contentions are false. It also contains several grammatical errors and reads like a literal translation from English to Spanish, suggesting it was not written by a native Spanish speaker.

In other words, the letter is technically correct, but so un-PC that it has been deemed unacceptable. Newsspeak at its finest.
18 posted on 10/19/2006 7:19:43 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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If a private citizen paid for the letter and it contained no mention of a political race or ballot initiative, I don't think any laws were broken. If a campaign paid for it, though, there are a lot of laws about disclosure notices that have to be put on the piece ("Paid for by Friends of Furd Burfle") -- and McCain's friggin CFR law might have made those disclosures even tougher, I don't know.


19 posted on 10/19/2006 7:20:54 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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Good catch ya'll. I missed that one. Of course legal immigrants are allowed to vote.


20 posted on 10/19/2006 7:27:41 AM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Tancredo/Paul 2008)
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