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NJ Police Have No Duty to Protect You
NJCSD News ^ | Wednesday, 18 October 2006 | Robert Rose

Posted on 10/18/2006 1:47:32 PM PDT by Fun Bob

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To: Mr. Thorne
Either New York, or California, if memory serves. What it amounted to was, people were calling the police for help from areas where there were riots going on, and the police were either unwilling or unable to respond.

I honestly think it was unwilling, but that could be my bad memory.

Anyway, USSC ruled that you can't sue the cops for NOT coming to your aid.

Well if that's the case and IF I ever get that message from 911 I'll have the perfect reply that will get them there.

"You mean you're not coming? Ok, I'll take care of it with a machinegun and some hand grenades"

the other alternate response: [BANG] "What about the cop in the street that was just shot ?"

41 posted on 10/18/2006 2:37:20 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim
1856, according to this.
42 posted on 10/18/2006 2:37:31 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat Party, not Democratic Party.)
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To: 38special

Because politicians keep calling for "More cops on the streets!"
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Yup, more cops write more tickets which means more income for the city. More cops means they can set up stings to catch johns and prostitues, which pay fines and leave jail. More cops means they can set up stings to catch drug dealers and keep the assets in the city.

More cops DO NOT mean more protection, that's for sure


43 posted on 10/18/2006 2:37:47 PM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: 38special
"Because politicians keep calling for "More cops on the streets!""

If the liberals would disarm cops like they try to do everyone else, the gangbangers would put more cops on the streets.
44 posted on 10/18/2006 2:37:51 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Demonrats want the Gays out of Congress.....stand back and let them purge their base.)
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To: gaijin
The other day I saw one man threatening another in traffic with a KNIFE

You must not be in Texas then. That would have gotten him killed here.

45 posted on 10/18/2006 2:39:07 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: MadeInAmerica

Well, he wasn't in the car, his aid was running errands for him in NJ and was beaten and carjacked.

Sorry about his aide. But for a moment I thought we had another "Ransom of Red Chief" on our hands!


46 posted on 10/18/2006 2:40:13 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Stone Mountain

Hopefully, they were held accountable in other ways, like losing their jobs.


47 posted on 10/18/2006 2:40:46 PM PDT by Ladysmith
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To: MadeInAmerica
The cops have two purposes: collect revenue and arrest criminals after they committed a crime. Historically, that's been the justification for establishing police. Its never been in the history of this country, about protecting individuals. That's the truth, no matter what else they may show on TV cop shows.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

48 posted on 10/18/2006 2:40:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Fun Bob

This isn't news. It's been well-settled law in every state since there have been local constabularies.


49 posted on 10/18/2006 2:44:08 PM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Centurion2000
Simple rule to remember:

Retrieve your gun first and be ready to use it. Only then do you use the phone to call 911.

50 posted on 10/18/2006 2:45:28 PM PDT by Ladysmith
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To: Ladysmith
The police typically get there after someone's dead. Better pray it isn't you.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

51 posted on 10/18/2006 2:46:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The reason I'm huge on self-defense is because it WAS almost me. I would be six feet under right now if weren't for our janitor working with us at the time. He was a cop working a second job and saved my butt one night when a lunatic got his hands on my throat. He kept the loon pinned down for twenty looonnnng minutes before the county mounties finally arrived.


52 posted on 10/18/2006 2:53:53 PM PDT by Ladysmith
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To: Ladysmith
Your point illustrates my post for me as nothing else does: our life is truly in our hands. If we expect the police to keep it for us, we're in for a nice little row in the cemetery - and cemeteries are full of deluded people who believed society owed them their life. There's just so much brainwashing going on about the benevolent and helpful state. Its all a lie.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

53 posted on 10/18/2006 2:58:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Fun Bob

But taxpayers ARE obligated to pay their salaries.


54 posted on 10/18/2006 3:01:53 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: edcoil

This ruling is no surprise. The idea of Sovereign immunity is well founded in Common Law.

I do however think that denying self defense to persons is way wrong. One of very reason the law allows self defense is because police are not be expected to have a duty to protect the individual vs a duty to protect the public.

This being the case it becomes the right and duty of the individual to protect himself, his family and his home. By whatever means necessary.


55 posted on 10/18/2006 3:05:51 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Fun Bob
NJ Police Have No Duty to Protect You

Of course they don't. I live in Texas. ;)
56 posted on 10/18/2006 3:07:00 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Viva EspaƱa!)
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To: Fun Bob

Get a gun, join the NRA, and if your town won't let you defend your life get out!


57 posted on 10/18/2006 3:08:03 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Defeat the gun grabbers. Join the NRA)
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To: lastchance
The right of self-defense preceded the creation of the state and the organization of government. All of our gun control laws are unconstitutional because they take away a right government is not allowed to take away in the first place.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

58 posted on 10/18/2006 3:08:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
In 1857 we did not have nearly as many police per capita and citizen could defend themselves. If the Government is going to be more pervasive in our lives, they have to take responsibility for it.
59 posted on 10/18/2006 3:09:58 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Fun Bob
"NJ needs shall-issue CCW legislation. Not to mention less arrogant and less paternalistic politicians."

Do yourselves a favor and come across the river. Please. We have it in PA.
60 posted on 10/18/2006 3:12:16 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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