Oaxaca Situation Intensifies -- Leftists Ejecting Government Officials from Offices (Translation)

El Universal ( Mexico City ) ^ | October 18, 2006 | Jorge Octavio Ochoa ( translated by self )

[StJacques]

"How is 'Oaxaca' pronounced?"

Try --  WA - HAH - KA

The "a" vowel sounds are similar to the "a" in "Hah! Hah!" or "Hurrah!" and the middle syllable is stressed.

[StJacques]

". . . I was there during a mob riot when one person was basically lynched. The rioters plastered every wall in the zocalo with graffiti. Overnight the town had every bit of graffiti painted by the time I went out for breakfast the following morning."

BunnySlippers, was this just recently? I remember you told me you were about to go to either Puebla or Veracruz. Did you go to Oaxaca too?

[RightWhale]

Post #22 is for you.

[StJacques]

OOPS! My bad.

Thank you Right Whale. I need to clean my glasses.

[JCEccles]

APPO and the SNTE have pretty much had everything their own way for the last couple of months at least, and it now appears that Oaxacans are beginning to stand up to them.

The lumpenproletariat isn't exactly rising up and signing on to the revolucion.

I agree with you. This has gone beyond mere protest and is an open rebellion against the legally elected Mexican government and the Mexican people.

[StJacques]

". . . This has gone beyond mere protest and is an open rebellion against the legally elected Mexican government and the Mexican people."

Yes; you are absolutely correct. And the people of Oaxaca are beginning to realize that and are choosing sides. I've posted before on what I considered to be the strategy of the Fox administration in dealing with this problem, and I basically said they intended to let APPO and the SNTE become their own worst enemies by allowing them to show everyone how destructive a force they really are, and I now must say that it appears the plan is working.

With each passing day I expect Oaxacans to get more and more fed up with APPO and the SNTE. Eventually it's going to reach a tipping point and it will all come unraveled. But just what "unraveled" means, I cannot say. That is what I'm going to watch for as this thing progresses.

[A CA Guy]

Seems that this would absolutely be the case where the Mexican military should be ordered in guns blazing.

[BunnySlippers]

Not recently. It was about 3 years ago. I may have had my fill of Oaxaca ...

Still deciding on this year's vacation. :)

[taxed2death]

I would imagine the locals finally got sick and tired of the helicopter gunships strafing / killing them at night for the last 10 years. It's about time.

[redgolum]

Viva Cristo Rey!

Out of curiosity (as you would be one that might have an idea) is one party more pro Christian/Catholic than the other? Or are they all pretty anti God still. That, and any good books about the Cristo war that you would suggest?

[StJacques]

Are you referring to the Cristero rebellion of the mid-to-late 1920's? There is a fair online summary at:

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/history/jtuck/jtcristero1.html

It's in three parts, which can get you pretty far along to understanding it.

If you're looking for a book, may I recommend two?

There is Jim Tuck's regional overview:

The Holy War in Los Altos: A Regional Analysis of Mexico's Cristero Rebellion

And Matthew Butler's examination of the Cristero rebellion in the state of Michoacan

Popular Piety and Political Identity in Mexico's Cristero Rebellion: Michoacan, 1927-29

And for more sources:

Amazon.com search returns on Cristero Rebellion, 1926-1929

As a side note, the founding of the PAN Party in the late 1930's was closely linked to the surviving leaders of the Cristero rebellion and its staunch Roman Catholicism has remained a key tenet of its ideology to this very day.

This remains a pertinent topic.

And by the way, neither APPO and the SNTE nor the PRI are very closely tied to the Catholic Church, which is pretty much a bystander in this entire affair in Oaxaca. The church has tried to mediate, but neither side wants to let it in.

[ArmstedFragg]

I would imagine the locals finally got sick and tired of the helicopter gunships

In Oaxaca???? I think you'd have to go quite a ways further south and east for that.

[Alia]

Thank you, StJacques. I took the incident of the teacher being machete'd to death as a very clear sign as to how intent the marxists were on "seizure" and "coup".

[bboop]

"Waa-HAA-kaa."

[redgolum]

Thanks! Interesting part of history that no one in the US seems to care much about.

[BlackElk]

1. The Democratic Party has become the Demonratic Party. Certainly, Godly people may have residual attachments to the D Party for reasons of economics or (alleged) civil liberties. There are a rapidly diminishing few D candidates for whom one may vote in good conscience, particularly for executive office. In Illinois, Democrats in 1998 nominated then-Congressman Glen Poshard who was pro-life and pro-family to the point that Chicago and suburban feminazis were behaving like banshees drowning in Holy Water. He lost by 4% to Jailbird Lyin' George Ryan who promised to be just as good.

2. The ostensibly Republican George Ryan was a sleazy crook who became a full-throated abortion and homosexuality advocate as governor despite his false promises. He even commuted the death penalty of a charming pair of murderers who killed a woman by cutting a late term baby from its mother's womb so as to use the child to qualify for welfare. Apparently, when you just can't be sure of guilt as to any convict, life in prison is OK but execution is not. This means punish the taxpayers for the crimes of those two killers and hundreds of others and make it possible that some future governor can make them eligible for parole and resumption of their criminal careers.

3. There are many bad people in each party who would be more comfortable with the French Revolution than with our American Revolution. On ths subject, one ought to read British MP (and supporter of OUR revolution) Edmund Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France. On comparing the "Glorious" (England 1688) Revolution, ours, the French and the Russian, read historian Crane Brinton's Anatomy of Revolution, comparing them masterfully.

4. Denny Hastert ain't much but Nancy Pelosi is every bit as much an antiChrst as Her Hillarynous.

5. I do not have a source on my fingertips as to the Cristeros in Mexico. Google Miguel Pro, SJ, (martyred by firing squad in 1927 for saying Mass). Historian Christopher Kauffman was commissioned by the Knights of Columbus to write a history of the order on its centennial in about 1983. He has a great story about the (Democrat) leaders of the K of C visting FDR in about 1939 to vow Catholic opposition to a third term unless he rescued Fr. Pro's brother from execution for alleged (after the fact) involvement in the assassination of Dictator Obregon who had presided over Miguel Pro's execution. The second Fr. Pro was apparently the assasin's confessor and refused to reveal details of the assassin's confession when demanded by the Red PRI authorities. FDR called in Cordell Hull in their presence and told him to notify the PRI Mexican authorities of the fatal (to themselves and their regime) consequences of not turning the priest over to us or of not freeing him to join his parents and many surviving siblings in Cuba to which they had fled.

6. There was a Cristero movement in Spain. A wonderful and short book on that, Franco, and the Spanish Civil War is The Last Crusade by Warren Carroll, History Professor at Christendom College in Virginia, who has also written a multi-volume history of Bolshevism and a book on the pre-Soviet but communist regime in World War I era Portugal. The Last Crusade is one of the very best and infrmative books I have ever read.

Viva Cristo Rey!

[BlackElk]

I try as best I can. Thanks.

[redgolum]

LOL! I was talking about the Mexican parties! The Illinois parties (DNC and GOP) both act the same. I was living in Chicago when Ryan was Governor, and remember all the rumors. Now so many of them are true it is scary.

I have done some reading about the last Spanish Civil war. Got to hand it to Franco, he managed to accomplish his goals and stay out of WWII. To bad that Spain today is as bad if not worse as the Republican Spain. Used to work for a Spanish company, and it was interesting to compare the two.