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To: Stultis
We are saying the same thing I think.

Like I said the critics and doubters go back to the beginning, but those voices were not given serious consideration or how else could the hoax last as long as it did?

BTW as I predicted, your compadre demented has abandoned the field while the rest of the team takes up the slack for her.

W.
118 posted on 10/20/2006 5:44:23 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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Clueless As Usual Placemarker
119 posted on 10/20/2006 5:47:40 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: RunningWolf

Who cares who's posting? The claim that Piltdown was not criticised is simply false. It doesn't matter whether anyone is around at any given moment to say it. The sun also rises.


120 posted on 10/20/2006 5:50:57 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: RunningWolf
how else could the hoax last as long as it did?

Mainly because the hoaxer engineered a second find, Piltdown II. The problem was that the critics, although correctly claiming that Piltdown I represented not a single species but two -- the jaw from an ape and the skull from a human -- had not seriously considered the possibility of deliberate fraud. Therefore they were effectively arguing that it was a fortuitous association of ape and human materials, misinterpreted as a single creature. Therefore when a separate, second such association was produced, the chance association argument became untenable. (Even though, as the Talk Origins page points out, several important critics persisted.)

124 posted on 10/20/2006 6:04:05 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: RunningWolf
We are saying the same thing I think.

Um, No. What you said was:

the biggest names of TOE in England Europe and the USA bought into to it

When in fact (until Piltdown II at least) only a rather small MINORITY of leading evolutionists "bought into it," and its critics included a number of the world's leading anthropologists. (Several of the British scientists supporting it weren't actually experts in human anatomy.)

126 posted on 10/20/2006 6:09:58 PM PDT by Stultis
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