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Op-eds now more central in war than bullets
Jewish World Review ^ | 18 October 2006 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 10/18/2006 6:06:28 AM PDT by rhombus

Soldiers, sailors, and airmen once determined the outcome of warfare, but no longer. Today, television producers, columnists, preachers, and politicians have the pivotal role in deciding how well the West fights. This shift has deep implications.

In a conventional conflict like World War II, fighting had two premises so basic, they went nearly unnoticed.

The first: Conventional armed forces engage in an all-out fight for victory. The opposing sides deploy serried ranks of soldiers, lines of tanks, fleets of ships, and squadrons of aircraft. Millions of youth go to war as civilians endure privations. Strategy and intelligence matter, but the size of one's population, economy, and arsenal count even more. An observer can assess the progress of war by keeping tabs of such objective factors as steel output, oil stocks, ship construction, and control of land.

Second assumption: Each side's population loyally backs its national leadership. To be sure, traitors and dissidents need to be rooted out, but a wide consensus backs the rulers. This was especially noteworthy in the Soviet Union, where even Stalin's demented mass-murdering did not stop the population from giving its all for "Mother Russia."

Both aspects of this paradigm are now defunct in the West. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: danielpipes; media; pipes; wot

1 posted on 10/18/2006 6:06:29 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus

He's hitting the nail on the head. This war will be won as much by successful propaganda as by force of arms.


2 posted on 10/18/2006 6:07:54 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The answer always lies with more freedom; not less)
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To: JamesP81

The really sad part is that many of the best propagandists work for the other side in the entertainment and media businesses.


3 posted on 10/18/2006 6:12:36 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus; joan; FormerLib; Honorary Serb

A perfect example was how a PR firm (I think Hill, Knowlton) was successful in demonizing the Serbs who were after all just fighting Islamic terrorists in their own native land. The PR firm did this by inflaming Western attitudes, by exaggerating the number of deaths in the Bosnian civil war by a factor of 10 and in Kosovo-Metohija by a factor of 100, and attributing ALL of them to the Serbs, who in fact were the primary victims, AND who had suffered a million deaths in World War II at the hands of the same pro-Nazi Islamic propulation.


4 posted on 10/18/2006 6:13:25 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: rhombus

The WH needs to do a much better job in presenting the role of US forces in Iraq to the American public.

Every time the president does speak out, support for the war increases. Why Mr. Bush does not do this more is, well, strange.

Good things are happening in Iraq for our side, and those things need to be highlighted.

Viva Bush and our troops!


5 posted on 10/18/2006 6:13:58 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: rhombus

If we have to rely on the DBM and the judiciary to fight this war, we have already lost.

Only the new media and a strong executive can get the job done!


6 posted on 10/18/2006 6:14:21 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: rhombus

That's why we're in the shape we're in in Iraq. If the propagandists were on our side, we as a nation would have the political will to do what is necessary in Iraq. It'd be over in a few weeks once we gave our troops the thumbs up to kick butt and not bother with taking names.


7 posted on 10/18/2006 6:14:49 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The answer always lies with more freedom; not less)
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To: RexBeach

Well there's only 2 years left for THIS White House. Perhaps we should keep the need for better public relations in mind as we select the next nominee.


8 posted on 10/18/2006 6:15:57 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus

We use words, they use improvised explosive devices.


9 posted on 10/18/2006 6:22:20 AM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace!)
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To: Excellence
We use words, they use improvised explosive devices.

But our words impact whether or not we have the will to search out and destroy those making the IEDs.

10 posted on 10/18/2006 6:24:56 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus
I don't have to read the article but IMO - it's JUDGES who are more central than bullets.

Look at the leftist twit in Michigan. The Klintoon stooge who gave TRAITOR Stewart 28 stinking months in lieu of 30 years. Look at all the leftist 'judges' over turning laws (State and Fed) left and right to promote their commie agenda.

So for 2008 -- it's about the JUDGES stupid.

(and I don't want some gun grabbing, gay loving, baby killing, phony, sanctuary for all illegals, empty suit 'ex' Democrat who has the morals of an alley cat and whose claim to fame is getting hookers out of Times Square (whoopee!!), picking them!!)

11 posted on 10/18/2006 6:30:24 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Alot" is NOT a word and doesn't mean "many". It is 'a lot', two separate words.)
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To: Cannonette
wars are decided more on the Op Ed pages and less on the battlefield

blog this for me, baby.

12 posted on 10/18/2006 6:42:08 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Either we bring them freedom, or they destroy us.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

This is relativist nonsense. Usually it is peddled under the sklogan, "perception is reality." That is, of course, a lie. It i a self-serving lie designed to enhance the power of the self-important media which is poorly regarded. consider, if you want, the much hyped Mid East Peace process. Because it ignored the reality of Hamas power it floundered, in spite of international hype.


13 posted on 10/18/2006 6:51:29 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt
I don't think it is nonsense. I think Pipes describes the psychological operations being conducted against the American people to undermine support for the war, damage morale, and promote defeatism, operations that would not be nearly as effective without the aid of American opinion-makers.

There is a Fifth Column in America, and much of the Main Stream Media is a part of it. Far too many Americans want regime change in America and American defeat and withdrawal every bit as much as Osama bin Laden does.

Who conducts counter-psyops to mitigate the effects of psyops directed at American domestic target audiences?

14 posted on 10/18/2006 7:31:18 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Either we bring them freedom, or they destroy us.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Don't for a minute think that it controls or influences what the dictators we oppo9se think. This is an exaggeration of quantum theory that argues particles only come on, if they are oberved. That works in a lab, but in real life you can get mugged from behind by someone you have not seen. Don't buy the argument that media controls reality. They have a small and very skeptical and cynical audience. Sure, there is a 5th column and they recruited, promoted and hyped Cindy Sheehan. Last I saw her she was sitting at an empty table for booksigning and had 12 people join her at the UN. Yhoe who argued for her moral autoirty might as well have been whistling in the wind.


15 posted on 10/18/2006 8:44:40 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian; joan; tgambill
That PR firm is Ruder-Finn. They are also active in PR in my field of professional endeavor. I'm sure that they wonder why I give them such a cold reception!

America is not only riddled with "intellectual"-looking islamist fifth columnists like Cherif Bassiouni, but also with New World Order fifth columnists like Thomas Friedman, that Serbophobe group at the Harvard Kennedy School, "Arabists" like Michel Sells and Esposito at Georgetown, and the "peace" lobby (e.g., James Carroll). Worst of all is the Soros NWO "Shadow Party"!!!

If it weren't for the NWO fifth columnists, we not only wouldn't have as much undermining of our war efforts, but we wouldn't get into unneccessary and counterproductive wars (e.g., "Kosovo") in the first place!!!!

16 posted on 10/18/2006 9:07:31 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

I'm stepping on it here, but, I discovered that we supported and helped to orchestrate communism in the early 1900's, supported and enabled nazi's to take over and start WWII, and lied, lied lied about the Balkans.....with some exception because the Serbian paramilitaries did get out of hand. However, the massacres and rapes were greatly exaggerated...it's causing me some problems.......I stand by God, Country and Corps...God means Truth before country and Corps....

Long story short, you are correct.


17 posted on 10/18/2006 9:27:07 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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