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To: Tallguy
Agreed. I just tired of the libertarian shtick about Iraq.

I share their desire for a small state domestically, but I think it's the government's duty to kill foreigners who try to kill us and undertake a course of action that will improve our overall security (even if it takes time to get there).

They also seem to think that the rational Economic and Political Man sprung fully formed from the Holy Market Place, forgetting that a free market is itself usually a product of a healthy, pre-existing civil society, rather than the reverse. I find assaults on the market to be repugnant not simply because they are likely to result in bad economic consequences unforeseen by socialists, but because such interference is primarily an interference with free association in civil society in general.

In brief, maintaining a healthy civil society and politics means respecting those orders as representing higher and more important goods than the market itself; and this means--in wartime-- recognizing that the political realm not only can but must make legitimate claims to our loyalty and our property in order to defeat the enemy.

Likening the terrorists in Iraq to 18th century rebels for liberty shows that the author cannot distinguished liberty from the unlimited exercise of political savagery and unrestrained passion, something that doesn't speak well of the understanding of liberty by 'libertarians'.

32 posted on 10/17/2006 3:01:40 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: pierrem15

Thank you for that reasoned and thoughtful explanation.


33 posted on 10/17/2006 3:03:16 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: pierrem15

excellent post!


41 posted on 10/17/2006 3:55:52 PM PDT by Tallguy
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