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1 posted on 10/17/2006 1:57:31 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

You left off the "Barf Bag" alert.


2 posted on 10/17/2006 2:00:20 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Tell me again, how many children did Jefferson blow up? Were there English civilians murdered and burned upside down? Did the colonialists set off bombs to kill everyone just in order to agitate?

This guy is an idiot.


3 posted on 10/17/2006 2:02:55 PM PDT by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

And what weird clowns went to your birthday parties? Are you really Keith Olbermoann?


5 posted on 10/17/2006 2:04:20 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I must have been sick the day that they talked about George Washington slamming airplanes into Big Ben in my American History class. As well as the day that they talked about Canadian, French, Mexican, and Spanish insurgents coming into America and destroying our infrastructure in order to incite violence between colonial loyalists and revolutionaries.

Who is this punk?

6 posted on 10/17/2006 2:06:11 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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To: kiriath_jearim
No comment from you?

Did you see the source on this? Here:

Ludwig von Mises Institute Home

The Ludwig von Mises Institute is the research and educational center of classical liberalism and the Austrian School of economics..

When I read this, my very first thought was "This guy is a liberal idiot who has probably spent a good deal of time in an ivory tower pontificating to himself because he enjoys the sound of himself speaking..."

Then, I thought, I should check the source first before I say that. Funny how you can just pick them out after a few words in the first paragraph.

If I hear one more LIBERAL MORON compare the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan to our Founding Fathers, I am going to send out a team to revoke their right to have stupid speech issuing from their piehole, because they have just exceeded the limits of tolerance.

In case you did not know it, and this pathetic excuse for a handwringing Euroweenie clearly doesn't know it, the Founding Fathers DID NOT DELIBERATELY BLOW UP INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

9 posted on 10/17/2006 2:11:48 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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If we woke Jefferson's gang up today, what would they make of it all?

The man who sent our military forces to attack the islamic terrorists of his day (the Barbary Pirates), would have been unlikely to submit to the Saddamites and Jihadis in modern-day Iraq.

10 posted on 10/17/2006 2:13:16 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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American insurgents from 1776 would see Iraq through the filter of their own occupation: the struggle against the Crown and its Hamiltonian successors.

Hogwash. They'd have been in there fighting against the tyranny of Saddam and the terrorists who are now attempting to take over his oppression of the Iraqi people.

11 posted on 10/17/2006 2:14:18 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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I can see where the article is coming from in terms of its sympathies towards Iraqis fighting foreign forces. Whilst I'm not fond of the insurgents, it echoes one of my favourite pieces which Mark Twain wrote well in my country many years ago in an entry that touched on the topic of fighting benevolent invaders, or taking up arms with said benevolent invaders because you shared their vision:

December 8.

A couple of curious war-monuments here at Wanganui. One is in honor of white men "who fell in defence of law and order against fanaticism and barbarism." Fanaticism. We Americans are English in blood, English in speech, English in religion, English in the essentials of our governmental system, English in the essentials of our civilization; and so, let us hope, for the honor of the blend, for the honor of the blood, for the honor of the race, that that word got there through lack of heedfulness, and will not be suffered to remain. If you carve it at Thermopylae, or where Winkelried died, or upon Bunker Hill monument, and read it again "who fell in defence of law and order against fanaticism" you will perceive what the word means, and how mischosen it is. Patriotism is Patriotism. Calling it Fanaticism cannot degrade it; nothing can degrade it. Even though it be a political mistake, and a thousand times a political mistake, that does not affect it; it is honorable always honorable, always noble--and privileged to hold its head up and look the nations in the face. It is right to praise these brave white men who fell in the Maori war--they deserve it; but the presence of that word detracts from the dignity of their cause and their deeds, and makes them appear to have spilt their blood in a conflict with ignoble men, men not worthy of that costly sacrifice. But the men were worthy. It was no shame to fight them. They fought for their homes, they fought for their country; they bravely fought and bravely fell; and it would take nothing from the honor of the brave Englishmen who lie under the monument, but add to it, to say that they died in defense of English laws and English homes against men worthy of the sacrifice--the Maori patriots.

The other monument cannot be rectified. Except with dynamite. It is a mistake all through, and a strangely thoughtless one. It is a monument erected by white men to Maoris who fell fighting with the whites and against their own people, in the Maori war. "Sacred to the memory of the brave men who fell on the 14th of May, 1864," etc. On one side are the names of about twenty Maoris. It is not a fancy of mine; the monument exists. I saw it. It is an object-lesson to the rising generation. It invites to treachery, disloyalty, unpatriotism. Its lesson, in frank terms is, "Desert your flag, slay your people, burn their homes, shame your nationality--we honor such."

Mark Twain

17 posted on 10/17/2006 2:34:39 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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A successful insurgency, independent of its underlying purpose, is a reason for every man who loves liberty to cheer.

Uh, no... The author is confused and is no lover of liberty. He is making the same silly mistake that would be made by someone coming across a scene where a big man is pummeling a smaller man, and without understanding the reason for the pummelling, comes to the aid of the smaller man, not realizing that the smaller man has just raped the bigger man's children and murdered the bigger man's wife. The big guy is not always wrong, and the small guy is not always right...

21 posted on 10/17/2006 2:42:14 PM PDT by Zeppo
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The biggest problem I have with this article is that it refuses to acknowledge that the traitorous American media is responsible for a great deal of the successes of the Iraqi "rebels".

Yes the British rule had similar problems back home internally and with the French. But nothing like America where the press is simply the propaganda arm of the DNC.

World wide the press is just one anti-American leftist institution and our war fighting is hamstringed because of it.

24 posted on 10/17/2006 2:47:38 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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"The highest number to which a standing army can be carried in any country does not exceed one hundredth part of the souls, or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This portion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men."

I'm not sure I understand this (I'm not sure it make any sense). Is he saying the US can't sustain an army bigger than 25-30 thousand men? If my math is right, the US has 300M souls, so one-hundreth part (is this guy an Olde English speaker?) is 3 million, which sounds about right. Is he this bad at math or did I miss something?
25 posted on 10/17/2006 2:49:05 PM PDT by don'tbedenied
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Before going further, I should declare that I am a patriot, but a qualified one.

This is my idea of Patriot Qualification:


29 posted on 10/17/2006 2:55:35 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Freely elected government in Iraq = complete breakdown of the analogy.

The "insurgents" this a$$hat is cheering on are nothing more than out of power thugs that want it back or want to get it the first place, without the boredom of going through a process whereby you PERSUADE most of the voters to pick you.


31 posted on 10/17/2006 2:57:50 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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What an R-Tard.


37 posted on 10/17/2006 3:14:57 PM PDT by Shellback Chuck (I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.)
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This guy is so full of shiite his eyes are brown! Jefferson sent U.S. forces to North Africa to confront the Barbary Pirates who were attacking our merchant ships. For this moron to infer that Jefferson didn't use the military outside the U.S. is a flat out lie.


39 posted on 10/17/2006 3:18:18 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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The comparison is a disturbing one to make in the middle of our war

The comparison is a really stupid one to make at just about any time.

42 posted on 10/17/2006 6:01:35 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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